[Question] offer decision between DevRel and PM

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Aug 10, 2018 8 Comments

Hi all,

I am looking for some advice of offer decision from experienced PMs.

Background: developer(7y; embedded systems and backend)/data scientist (2y)/technical PM(1y)

Option 1: developer relationship manager / Nvidia
TC: X
Pros: focus on AI/ML, customer-facing role with Top leading customer, great commute, (kinda) top tier Tech firm
Cons: not exactly PM role for longterm career path, 20k less TC, no cash bonus

Option 2: Data PM / Visa
TC: X+20k
Pros: PM role, higher base + cash bonus, data platform and DS internal products
Cons: worse commute, non-Top tier in Tech, not great company culture on glassdoor, fewer rsus

I was focusing on PM job hunting, specifically for data-heavy roles because of my engineering and DS background. I was attempting to stick on PM route for my career planning through this switch opportunity and I have to say it was harder than my thought to get a PM gig, although I did have some big names (not top top tier) in the pocket. Spcifically I was questioned mostly for not having enough experience in customer-facing experience. That is the main reason why I took an chance to do DevRel hunt, since it will be highly customer-facing + technical.

DevRel is so new for me that I am not sure if I may like it or not, but I do want to leverage this chance to improve customer-facing skill. My worry is heavily on next job, if I decide this one don't work out and I want to switch back to PM role, I may have even harder time to receive a gig as PM later because of my longer yoe. Plus ML/AI is popular sexy topics for sure.

In the contrary, Visa is good and the role is strict PM, but certainly not the top player in tech segment. Plus the rank of company culture is not well-recognized. Though higher base+bonus means more direct financial rewards, which is also a good incentive.

Any comment will be really appreciated. Especially some insights from experienced PM hiring managers, what are your thoughts when you evaluate candidates with strict experience or diversified background?

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  • Yelp bigfang
    Simple: do you want to be a dev real or PM? Don’t worry about the company. The role matters here
    Aug 10, 2018 0
  • Microsoft EaeC27
    What is the Nvidia DevRel manager TC at?
    Aug 10, 2018 4
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      The range around 190k, including base and rsu. Pretty hard to negotiate.
      Aug 10, 2018
    • Microsoft EaeC27
      Thanks for that info. DevRel is very eng heavy. So if that's your passion and you like dealing with developers a lot then it's for you. Otherwise stick with the PM role. FWIW, I hired a PM into a DevRel org and didn't work out for either.
      Aug 11, 2018
    • Intel / Product pw12xcq
      I am curious as to why you would move ? Your handle says "Facebook". So isn't yiur TC taking a drop if it's in the 190K range ?
      Aug 20, 2018
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      Dont over-valuate comp for any of company. I am in business Dept so the comp is pretty shitty. And with competing offers, Nvidia is increasing comp too.
      Aug 21, 2018
  • Lazard fin/tech
    Do you want to be a glorified sales/customer service person or a product person who assumes total responsibility of a product's performance?
    Aug 13, 2018 0
  • Amazon ioqz44
    Honestly, more than customer facing experience for a PM, you mainly want PM industry experience. Visa will give you that. As long as you like the role, manager and team, go for that. 20k is nothing in the long run.
    Aug 11, 2018 0

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