10,000 hour rule

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Jun 25, 2018 18 Comments

Whether it’s 10,000 hrs or 10,000 experiments, shouldn’t that be the determining factor for hiring/promoting?

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  • Google / Engv0
    No.
    Jun 25, 20187
    • Sapient Razorfish
      Ifscbkd

      Sapient Razorfish

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      Why?
      Jun 25, 2018
    • Amazon Blah_Bla
      Because everyone figures out answer to your question at different rate. Agreed it might take 10,000 hours for you.
      Jun 25, 2018
    • Microsoft MrHyde🤖🤖
      Agreed. Not all 10k are the same... Quality is important
      Jun 25, 2018
    • Sapient Razorfish
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      Sapient Razorfish

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      So expertise in your discipline is most important reason for hiring/promoting?
      Jun 25, 2018
    • Microsoft MrHyde🤖🤖
      Yes.
      Jun 25, 2018
    • Sapient Razorfish
      JustDGAF

      Sapient Razorfish

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      But you can’t get better with more practice (aka work experience)?
      Jun 25, 2018
    • Microsoft MrHyde🤖🤖
      Yes you can. That's exactly the point. The only way you can gain quality experience is by putting in the work.
      Jun 25, 2018
  • Malcolm Gladwell is a complete bullshitter
    Jun 25, 20183
    • Sapient Razorfish
      JustDGAF

      Sapient Razorfish

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      Explain please
      Jun 25, 2018
    • Search “Malcolm Gladwell controversy” and “Malcolm Gladwell shill”
      Jun 25, 2018
    • Amazon / DesignHot==dog
      Gladwell tells really good stories. He finds some bit of conventional wisdom, then makes a counterintuitive argument about how it’s wrong, and then supplements it with a few anecdotes that fit his point. He’s a master of glossing over complex affairs while making it look like he deeply examined them. But he’s a fantastic writer. No doubt.
      Jun 25, 2018
  • Starbucks / EngLeOops
    10,000 hrs wasn’t a rule it was just the average if I remember correctly. The range was actually 5000-15000 hours depending on people’s backgrounds.

    And that just deals with mastery of a domain. Mastery != Job performance. I’m sure we’ve all met that engineer that is intelligent and talented but can’t get features out the door to save their life.

    Idk it’s kinda already in place. Yoe and whiteboardjng (good ones) and system design questions address this in a round about way imo
    Jun 25, 20180
  • Uber wyddd
    The company doesn't pay you nor promote you for how hard you work but what value you bring to the company. If someone else do more in 1000h than you do in 10k hours, then this person will get the promotion...

    There are a lot of hard worker who only get minimum wages, that's life
    Jun 25, 20181
    • Oscar / Eng
      tc/gtfo

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      If and only if that’s so simple AND if there is an objective measurement. For smaller company that’s easy to decide.
      Jun 25, 2018
  • Sapient Razorfish / Eng
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    Why?
    Aug 13, 20180
  • Oscar / Eng
    tc/gtfo

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    Promotion once a year. Mainly my salary. Cool? I will take that!
    Jun 25, 20180
  • GE idKt27
    10000/8 hrs will make 1250 work days will in turn become 3.4 years this is for average person and if you born to work and work 20 hrs still you need to clock 1.3 years to be hired or promoted. It does make any logical sense and there is no way to measure how quickly you can learn logic...unless until you want to participate in time bound burger eating competition or some repetitive mundane tasks..
    Jun 25, 20180

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