3rd world country tech guy. AMA

New / Product 3.14
Dec 3, 2017 148 Comments

Product guy working in a startup with technical background. Not going to disclose the country but its in Asia and its not India. Possibly ask me about:

- are we taking your jobs
- tech culture in 3rd world country
- compensation and lifestyle

Bonus point if anyone can guess what the country is.

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TOP 148 Comments
  • Intel sleepivy
    India?
    Dec 4, 2017 3
    • Cisco amigos
      Do you even read the first message in the thread?
      Dec 4, 2017
    • Intel sleepivy
      Thats why I work at intel :p
      Dec 4, 2017
    • Cisco amigos
      😀😂😂😂
      Dec 4, 2017
  • Microsoft / Eng Ayrr11
    You’re in China.
    Dec 4, 2017 4
    • Google / Eng larrrry
      China is not 3rd world lol
      Dec 5, 2017
    • Microsoft / Eng Arye11
      Yes, it is
      Dec 5, 2017
    • Amazon / Eng pufferduck
      Smh at all these people who don't know what first, second, and third world means. It was a political ideology categorization of countries during the Soviet era, during which the U.S. declared itself and many of its allies as "first world" and China and other Soviet countries as "second world". The rest of the world was "third world". The term is long outdated.

      In terms of development status, China is considered a "developing" country. If you have been there, it would be obvious given the massive differences between its established eastern cities and the rural areas to the west.
      Dec 5, 2017
    • Microsoft / Eng Arye11
      The term evolved
      Dec 5, 2017
  • Cognizant pmdz25.2
    3rd world county is such an old term. More appropriate term is Developing Country.

    Maldives!
    Dec 4, 2017 1
    • New / Product 3.14
      OP
      Thanks for the correction!
      Dec 4, 2017
  • Microsoft / Eng 20% raise
    North Korea?
    Dec 4, 2017 0
  • Airbnb NbBt40
    Indonesia. Micro finance, p2p lending, and mobile payment are huge there.
    Question: What are some of biggest barriers for foreign companies to enter your home market?
    Dec 4, 2017 3
    • New / Product 3.14
      OP
      The biggest: infrastructure and resources. They are both underdeveloped.

      The second: bureaucracy. If you are huge and want to enter Indonesia you will need a local lobby guy or you will have a hard time. Search for telegram and vimeo block in Indonesia. On paper they block it for national security reason and such, but we all know the main reason.

      The last: culture, and consumer behaviour. It is very different from the states, and there are significant differences from our closest neighbour such as SG, MY and TH. But among these three, this would be the least concern.
      Dec 4, 2017
    • New / Product 3.14
      OP
      Also fun fact. Amazon entered Singapore few months ago, right. I would be very intrigued to see how Amazon enter Indonesian market eventually. One of amazon’s strength is their warehouse and delivery system, however there are limited places where you can reach by truck here, and even so the road is bumpy and unpredictable.
      Dec 4, 2017
    • Amazon QhrC74
      Amazon did it India and can do so in Indonesia. Or they might acquire a local player.
      Jan 6, 2018
  • Juniper / Ops shitposter
    why are you still working on 3rd world country technology, guy?
    Dec 3, 2017 3
    • New / Product 3.14
      OP
      The competition here is a bit low that some people dont have a degree. So it is not too hard for me to land a job as long as i stay connected with people. I have had interviews with some first world companies, including amazon, but the short answer is I am not good enough.
      Dec 3, 2017
    • Credit Karma Johmy
      Maybe you are being too humble! Too bad more people in the US aren’t as open as you seem to be :)
      Dec 4, 2017
    • Google / Eng ungoogley
      Don't let the lack of degree create a mental blocker. It's really not that important in the hiring process
      Dec 5, 2017
  • Amazon keyclipse
    Hey fellow indonesian here. Ada kepikiran mo buat startup?
    Dec 4, 2017 3
    • Intel forgoing
      Slamabaki
      Dec 4, 2017
    • Workday VlqGx3
      Chimichanga
      Dec 4, 2017
    • New / Product 3.14
      OP
      Hi! There is something in mind for some time: It is hard for companies (not only tech) to find good employees, check their credentials, let alone making sure the person fit to the culture. This process is time consuming, tiring and sometimes result in objectionable quality.

      I am a product guy not engineer guy, so i don’t know how feasible this is. But i would like to apply machine learning to determine which candidates are good fit for the company, and each company would have different goals.

      Possible features are type of companies from previous work experience, length of work or even menial things such as choice of words in cv.

      Again i do not fully know how complex this would be and hey ideas are cheap right :)
      Dec 4, 2017
  • EMC yIVu60
    This seems like a quiz than ama.. figure which country I am from? Lol
    Dec 4, 2017 0
  • Cisco Lukt
    Which tech segment or function does your country focus on
    Dec 3, 2017 1
    • New / Product 3.14
      OP
      The trend here in this country follows what’s hot 5 years ago in the US: fintech, p2p lending, and e-wallet. There are few reasons for this: first, the majority of the people do not have a bank account, so the potential to disrupt is huge; second, the infrastructure is not well developed so startups are more geared towards basic necessities of human function, instead of leisure related such as airbnb, snap, etc
      Dec 3, 2017
  • VMware trollbully
    Are you taking our jobs?
    Dec 4, 2017 6
    • VMware trollbully
      Interesting.

      Are there opportunities for Westerners in Silicon Valley to join your effort ?

      Are you in Bali?
      Dec 5, 2017
    • New / Product 3.14
      OP
      Am based on the capital but i might be able to introduce you to some people who might have connection in Bali.

      Hope i catch your question correctly. But if you work here, you will have an enjoyable salary (possibly the same with what you are making now) with 1/10th of the living cost.

      Barrier to entry as a foreigner is so low i would be very surprised if you still don’t get an offer by the first week.
      Dec 5, 2017
    • VMware trollbully
      That is very fascinating.

      I know about the 1/10 cost of living. Bali is like Hawaii without the cretins.
      Dec 5, 2017
    • New / Product 3.14
      OP
      If you move even deeper you can reach 1/50.
      Dec 5, 2017
    • VMware trollbully
      What does "move even deeper" mean ( aside the obvious prurient reference)?
      Dec 5, 2017
  • New UTzr53
    How is your English so good?
    Dec 4, 2017 6
    • New UTzr53
      Yeah I’ve noticed that about the generation of Asians in their 20s that their English is better than what it was 20 years ago. I think it makes the world a better place. Easier to communicate and make friends.
      Dec 4, 2017
    • Salesforce fdswlvxi
      @UTzr53 English does NOT make the world a better place! It only makes communication easier when English is the common language.
      Dec 4, 2017
    • New UTzr53
      Communication is easier so it’s better. If communication is hard then it’s worse.
      Dec 5, 2017
    • Amazon postage
      Yea, but he wrote its instead of it’s
      Dec 5, 2017
    • Workday LDvM27
      I find the designation of "third world" and this conversation about English preference to be very ethnocentric. Third world does not mean poor, it means "not western". And we should not be evaluating other cultures by how far they stray from their own norms. And we should not be congratulating people for being fluent in English...even though it is, on the international stage, the language of the prestigious, in many countries it a normal to speak multiple languages fluently yet Americans can barely remember chaper 1 vocab from Highschool Spanish 1. I just find it demeaning to be surprised at his ability to speak with facility.
      Dec 5, 2017
  • Uber / Eng qClF74
    The US is a 3rd world country...
    Dec 4, 2017 0
  • Union Bank / Eng Tecchan
    🇮🇩?
    Dec 4, 2017 0
  • PayPal trolol
    Im surprised no one brought up Narnia. Blind, our troll game is def. slipping.
    Dec 4, 2017 3
    • Apple His
      Explain why Narnia is a third world country
      Dec 4, 2017
    • PayPal trolol
      Coz it aint a first or second world country. Duh.
      Dec 4, 2017
    • Amazon / Product furio
      Lol. This is from this weeks southpark episode
      Dec 5, 2017
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    • New / Product 3.14
      OP
      Internet connection is good if you stay in the big cities but beyond that it is not usable for working.

      Since tech is so hot at the moment the pay is really really good up to the point which i can double my peers salary in other industries. But apart from banking and business related, say med, the pay is shite hence the rampant corruption.
      Dec 4, 2017
  • eBay / Eng
    #yolo

    eBay Eng

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    Microsoft
    #yolomore
    @OP, I was always intrigued by Indonesia using Ganesh as a symbol so often, like for universities etc can you shed some light on why. Also the airlines is Garuda, which is again derived from Hinduism. How this influence?
    Dec 4, 2017 8
    • Expedia / Mgmt AF1
      Chozhas ? That’s why you see all temples in those areas
      Dec 4, 2017
    • New / Product 3.14
      OP
      Ah didnt know that! Learned something new every day.
      Dec 4, 2017
    • Microsoft iknowudid
      I think previously hindu kings ruled till indonasia
      Dec 4, 2017
    • PayPal Jhing
      Look into Srivijaya and Chola history. Hinduism and Buddhism had spread to whole of east and south east asia and hence the influence.
      Dec 4, 2017
    • Amazon / Eng ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
      You can see this especially in Bali. The Balinese religion is based on Hinduism.
      Dec 5, 2017
  • VMware trollbully
    Idiots. He told us exactly where he is already. Stfu.
    Dec 5, 2017 3
    • Microsoft Windows
      Who cares lol
      Dec 5, 2017
    • Illumina / Other
      Dead beef

      Illumina Other

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      Illumina
      Dead beefmore
      Mongolia?
      Dec 5, 2017
    • VMware trollbully
      Very appropriate guess given most of the replies to OP are on the order of someone with Downs Syndrome.

      OP is offering gold here and you guys are responding with piss

      Children.
      Dec 5, 2017
  • Cisco amigos
    Pakistan Nepal srilanka
    Dec 4, 2017 1
    • New / Product 3.14
      OP
      Nope
      Dec 4, 2017
  • Google wearing
    Bangladesh
    Dec 3, 2017 1
    • New / Product 3.14
      OP
      Nope
      Dec 3, 2017
  • Walmart workforfun
    So basically this thread is about guessing OP's nationality??
    Dec 5, 2017 3
    • VMware trollbully
      We know his nationally.

      It's about measuring the reading comprehension of those replying to it.
      Dec 5, 2017
    • Walmart workforfun
      That's really a hot topic then!
      Dec 5, 2017
    • VMware trollbully
      Lmao. I like you. You are fun.
      Dec 5, 2017