CompensationJan 13, 2018
LinkedInaMmY71

401k?

Which is best option to choose? My salary is ~180k and TC of $300k (the majority of the difference is tied up in stocks haven’t sold) Pre tax? Roth? Any other advice for managing money? LinkedIn matches 50%, so will def choose to max out 401k. Thanks!

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Amazon \~>^*£~}<€ Jan 13, 2018

Make sure u check vesting policy for your company as if you leave before vesting date of company contributions you are going to lose all the free money.

Microsoft rpIa16 Jan 13, 2018

MS, and presumably LI, is immediate vest

Oracle corndogs Jan 13, 2018

At that salary level, pretax. Then max out a back door Roth IRA. Withdraw from both in retirement

Credit Karma Aw284nmw Jan 13, 2018

Has the new tax law changed back door roth rules?

Oracle corndogs Jan 13, 2018

Don’t think so, otherwise there would have been a lot more coverage about it. But you bring up a good point, the backdoor Roth won’t be around forever but lucky for us, the government is slow as fuck to make decisions and changes.

Tableau Johnny27 Jan 13, 2018

Assuming you already have a decent emergency fund (say 6 months of expenses) and no high interest debts like credit cards, then maxing out your 401k (especially with the awesome match you have) is the way to go. I would go with pre-tax money (traditional 401k) and choose a low cost target-date fund. If you can afford it, I would invest the IRA limit of $5,500 too in a non deductable IRA (you're way over the income limit for deductable) and immediately roll that amount over to a Roth IRA. Repeat every year. Retire rich.

Facebook parkingson Jan 13, 2018

Why not Roth?

Salesforce ☀️☀️☀️☀️☀️ Jan 13, 2018

Yeh why not roth ira

Microsoft MDuE35 Jan 13, 2018

Put it all in crypto. The Chinese central bank has been purchasing US stocks since 2009 in an effort to artificially drive up US markets. This is a bait and switch effort aimed at wealth redistribution. Start getting out of dollar-based assets since the risk of a dollar revaluation is high. Crypto prices will skyrocket when this happens. Already have for those in the know.

Tableau Johnny27 Jan 13, 2018

Please stop

Microsoft Harmar Jan 13, 2018

Assuming LNKD has the same plan as MSFT, now, you can sock away $18500 (traditional or Roth) + $27000 (Roth mega backdoor) + $9250 (matching funds) this year. With $300K TC, you should be able to afford maxing that out.

Tableau Johnny27 Jan 13, 2018

I'm jaelous of this Roth mega backdoor! I'll check with Tableau benefits if this could be added.

Tableau Johnny27 Jan 13, 2018

...and jealous of your match too! Tableau is way behind in that regard - used to be $1,500/year. Now $2,500.

Microsoft binary27 Jan 13, 2018

Anyone able to explain this Roth Backdoor stuff in plain English?

Oracle corndogs Jan 13, 2018

There is an income limit on who can contribute to a Roth IRA. There is a super easy method to get around this restriction. You contribute to a traditional IRA, and covert it to a Roth IRA.

LinkedIn aMmY71 OP Jan 13, 2018

Thanks everyone for the great help!! If I were to do the Roth mega back door, is this pretax contribution to the 27k limit? Or it’s coming after I already paid taxes on my salary?

Microsoft Harmar Jan 13, 2018

Roth backdoor is after tax contributions converted to Roth. Traditional is the only type of contribution that reduces current year taxes.

LinkedIn aMmY71 OP Jan 16, 2018

Thanks!! Do I need to select some plan to make this happen? Or I just need to do on my own from my savings account?

LinkedIn aMmY71 OP Jan 16, 2018

Also what is the difference between mega back door and back door?

Microsoft Harmar Jan 16, 2018

Mega backdoor is via 401k if your plan offers it and the amount you can contribute is generally much higher (Microsoft allows $27K this year). Regular backdoor is via IRA and is limited to $5500 (plus catch-up if you're eligible). The limit is on contributions, BTW, conversions are unlimited once the money is in the account.