996 - No overtime comp - Can you force the employees to work 996

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Apr 14 31 Comments

To survive at Alibaba Group Holding Ltd. you need to work 12 hours a day, six days a week. That’s what billionaire Jack Ma demands of his staff at China’s biggest e-commerce platform.

Ma told an internal meeting that Alibaba doesn’t need people who look forward to a typical eight-hour office lifestyle, according to a post on Alibaba’s official Weibo account. Instead, he endorsed the industry’s notorious 996 work culture — that is, 9 a.m. to 9 p.m., six days a week

https://github.com/996icu/996.ICU

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  • Oscar 🐨koala
    No. Fuck that.
    Apr 14 0
  • Uber danke
    996 may be a stretch but 995 is totally normal. Even in some taxi companies in US.
    Apr 14 1
    • Airbnb ancmqo
      995 also happens in some hotel companies
      Apr 14
  • Uber / Eng
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    It’s very different when you’re working 996 for your own startup vs slaving away your life so that some billionaire can become even richer
    Apr 14 0
  • Dropbox systest
    That’s nothing compared to Korea/Japan. South Korean engineers move to China for improved WLB.
    Apr 14 1
    • New MVxb56
      Lol for real?
      Apr 14
  • Amazon / Eng n0v
    Countries that do this typically still have single income, where man is wage slave and the woman takes care of everything at home. Might work ok in 20s, but it's not sustainable, even with spouse/parents running the home.
    Apr 14 2
    • Sadly more than half world population still live that way. Long way to go.
      Apr 14
    • Sina.com / Eng
      WLB

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      i highly doubt china to be a single income country
      Apr 14
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    • New MVxb56
      Nice try, @amazon. Learn how to pronounce correctly first. FYI, India population growth rate is faster than China.

      P/s: Not Chinese .
      Apr 14
  • Google / Eng Dumbminion
    Shut up with all the disparaging remarks, this person is sharing valuable information. Oracle, you specifically shut your piehole.

    @Nvidia, that's some interesting info. Share more details please? This is a significant WLB issue. Germany had an efficient system that includes 30+ holidays, no overtime without comp time, etc. It encourages healthy employees and as a result has some if the best engineering in the world.

    Just saying, there is a decrease in efficient work when you do not have a good work life balance.
    Apr 14 1
    • eBay / R&D
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      totally agree. People cannot focus for 12 hours by nature. Chinese engineers have no enough choices considering population, number of well-pay companies and law
      enforcement. I think many Chinese feel very grateful github and foreign activists get it exposed worldwide. Nothing can be changed shortly. I am leaving this place.
      Apr 18
  • New / Product
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    Sounds like a light version of doing a medical internship.
    Apr 14 0
  • Apple sisiIosla
    Is that even legal? Why would someone ever accept that job? How much do they pay
    Apr 14 1
    • Sina.com / Eng
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      to hour workers, it isn't. To salary workers, it is legal.
      Apr 14
  • Dropbox 5vi
    It can happen here in the US too. FB and Amazon slave their employees with 995 schedules. Not that far away from 996
    Apr 14 0
  • Facebook realSmShdy
    One can copy quickly using 996, but to invent something new takes generations. How many of these people (the country's smartest) working 996 are childless?
    Apr 14 0
  • Sina.com / Eng
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    salaried employees are exempt from the federal Fair Labor Standards Act’s (FLSA) minimum wage and overtime pay protections.
    Apr 14 0
  • Amazon Lollol
    Jack ma can shove the 996 in his asshole.
    Apr 14 0
  • LinkedIn / Eng BenCho
    995 is common in India too
    Apr 14 0
  • Google / Eng
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    This is so fucked up. I would only accept suck a job in desperation and would spend as many working hours as possible leetcoding and preparing myself to jump ship ASAP.
    Apr 14 0
  • Thermo Fisher / Sales zeussical
    That’s what half the tech people in the SF area claim to work. They are full of shit.
    Apr 14 0
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    • Airbnb ancmqo
      Stfu
      Apr 14
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  • Apple 867530nine
    Take your 996, put it in a box, and cram it up your asshole. This shit is scary, and I can see it taking off.
    Apr 15 0
  • eBay / Eng Kabul
    It is Asian culture. Their work owns them.
    Apr 14 0
  • Google / Eng Dumbminion
    Ok, that was funny... +1
    Apr 14 0