From other thread, I noticed that many engineers got low balled even after promotion to L6. At the same time, Amazon pays relatively more to new hire SDE 2's/SDE 3's. How many of you are in this boat? Is this new Amazon norm? Which org are you in ? How long have you been in Amazon? TC: 242k Location: Seattle Org: AW5 5+ years in Amazon
New hires at amazon have to pass the bar raiser round which means they’re above median for the level they’re offered, which is why their offer is also usually above the median for that level (200k+ for SDE2, 305k+ for SDE3). Meanwhile new promotions are towards the lower end of the band (175k for SDE2, 240k for SDE3). It makes sense.
The bar raising times are long gone. But your main point stands. When you're promoted from the inside, you're on the lower end of the band, while you can get hired straight into the higher end.
What do you mean bar raising times are gone?
I was offered 255k for L5 at Amazon recently... it seems kinda fucked up if they are paying internal SDE3s less than incoming SDE2s.
When you are promoted, you are generally at the lower end of the pay band. External hires are often at the highest end of the payband (esp L5 because Amzn downlevels people with 15 yoe). External L6 are are also median or higher payband.
This is not Amazon norm. This is industry norm.
It would be good if someone from Google, fb, Uber, Microsoft, etc. can chime in. Although I doubt it's true that a higher level promoted person being paid less than new hire at lower level.
Microsoft treats current employees like shit similar or worse than amazon. I am maxing out bonus but still super underpaid compare to external hires. So I voted with my feet. Funny that I am going to amazon as l5 but with l6 pay grade lol
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SDE 3, it's in thread title.
Doesnt say its yours or asking in general