AMA: I am a DACA recipient

Oscar / Eng
tc/gtfo

Oscar Eng

BIO
Hi. I am real and I am pretty friendly. Just here for some happiness.
tc/gtfomore
Jun 21, 2018 67 Comments

Opinions are my own.

I am a DACA recipient. I have been here since I was 12, a visa overstayer.

I am grateful for getting a work permit in 2013 - just a year before I completed my degree. With this permit, I got an internship, then a full time, and now working for Oscar Health. I am thankful for my education and the freedom here in the States.

I hope this AMA can offer something on the table.

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  • Compass / Eng
    FUPayMe

    Compass Eng

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    Google
    FUPayMemore
    I’m sorry you’re having to deal with this current administration.
    Jun 21, 2018 5
    • Oscar / Eng
      tc/gtfo

      Oscar Eng

      BIO
      Hi. I am real and I am pretty friendly. Just here for some happiness.
      tc/gtfomore
      OP
      Thank you for your understanding. I am sorry for breaking American laws, but I know being here is both a luck and a necessity for my own life.
      Jun 21, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng
      RipCareer

      Amazon Eng

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      IBM
      RipCareermore
      It’s clearly not your fault if you were 12. Ironic you’re working for the Kushners though!
      Jun 21, 2018
    • Oscar / Eng
      tc/gtfo

      Oscar Eng

      BIO
      Hi. I am real and I am pretty friendly. Just here for some happiness.
      tc/gtfomore
      OP
      Haha this Kushner is not like the WH’s one. Pretty nice guy.
      Jun 21, 2018
    • Compass / Eng
      FUPayMe

      Compass Eng

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      Google
      FUPayMemore
      I’m good friends with your ceo btw. Will gaybrick from thrive put us in touch.
      Jun 21, 2018
    • Oscar / Eng
      tc/gtfo

      Oscar Eng

      BIO
      Hi. I am real and I am pretty friendly. Just here for some happiness.
      tc/gtfomore
      OP
      Nice! I like the CEO as well. Hes pretty nice too. I hope one day I will have my own startup :) but helping to build a healthcare company feels good.
      Jun 21, 2018
  • Uber / Eng murano
    TC?
    Jun 21, 2018 3
    • Oscar / Eng
      tc/gtfo

      Oscar Eng

      BIO
      Hi. I am real and I am pretty friendly. Just here for some happiness.
      tc/gtfomore
      OP
      Between 100k and 200k.
      Jun 21, 2018
    • Twitter Ronram
      Seriously murano from Uber? What a loser.
      Jun 21, 2018
    • Oscar / Eng
      tc/gtfo

      Oscar Eng

      BIO
      Hi. I am real and I am pretty friendly. Just here for some happiness.
      tc/gtfomore
      OP
      Lol it’s fine. My username is tc/gtfo. He didn’t say gtfo though!!! But I appreciate both of you, ahha.
      Jun 21, 2018
  • Intuit / Product
    Back2bac

    Intuit Product

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    Startuply
    Back2bacmore
    To all the Indians waiting in line for 10+ years this guy is an example of haha. Fuck you all.
    Jun 21, 2018 6
    • Oscar / Eng
      tc/gtfo

      Oscar Eng

      BIO
      Hi. I am real and I am pretty friendly. Just here for some happiness.
      tc/gtfomore
      OP
      I am sorry, indeed. But I think part of the immigration should make the process simpler and more efficient. All current bills require us to be in line, so there is no jump start for us.
      Jun 21, 2018
    • Google XVWX88
      If the bill is to have you be in line that'd be the equivalent of getting an h1b and dealing with lotto.

      It'd likely lead to a large majority of DACA recipients Being asked to leave the country
      Jun 21, 2018
    • Oscar / Eng
      tc/gtfo

      Oscar Eng

      BIO
      Hi. I am real and I am pretty friendly. Just here for some happiness.
      tc/gtfomore
      OP
      Right now the moderate bill proposed by the House Republican leadership would grant us a path to citizenship, but we would wait in line. The criticism is largely on the conservative eligibility. The bill limits to DACa recipients who have no removal orders, many whom did not know until they applied DACA. So we are looking at maybe 70,80% of DACA population.

      I do not think the moderate bill will pass the Senate.
      Jun 21, 2018
    • Intuit / Product
      Back2bac

      Intuit Product

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      Startuply
      Back2bacmore
      Awesome.
      Dreamer - Break laws - chill, make money, maybe pay taxes because you are a dreamer. Half of them probably work as janitors and truckers and compete with us citizens. Never mind - here is your green card. Chill and use food stamps.
      H1b indian - came legally, worries about maintaining legal status, stands in line and waits for 30 years for green card. Pays taxes. Us says fuck you
      Jun 21, 2018
    • Oscar / Eng
      tc/gtfo

      Oscar Eng

      BIO
      Hi. I am real and I am pretty friendly. Just here for some happiness.
      tc/gtfomore
      OP
      We are not even in the green card state. We are far from it. Dreamers do recognize the struggle of others in the immigrations system. We also have to worry about our status. We don’t have a clear path forward. The only difference is dreamers get more sympathy because we were here at young age. We are not making excuses, just trying to find a solution that would help dreamers and other immigrants.
      Jun 21, 2018
  • Capital One / Eng
    SalesEng

    Capital One Eng

    BIO
    Working with Java, JS, go in AWS
    SalesEngmore
    What is your opinion of this administration vs the last?
    Jun 21, 2018 9
    • AXS DaCi01
      Nope 2 years for me . Still a long time with lots of complications... Not easy at all...
      Jun 21, 2018
    • New XPFN50
      Indian here with a MS in CS. Looking at a 15 year wait for Green Card.
      Jun 21, 2018
    • Oscar / Eng
      tc/gtfo

      Oscar Eng

      BIO
      Hi. I am real and I am pretty friendly. Just here for some happiness.
      tc/gtfomore
      OP
      Curious about you guys, on the other end. Why 15 years? I know there is limited green card can be awarded each year and processing priority depends on categories, including country origin.
      Jun 21, 2018
    • AXS DaCi01
      That's correct.. in the case of Indians eb2 I know that people try to get a PhD .. and in fact so many of them are so that eb1 is bulking up and eb2 and 3 are retrogressing
      Jun 21, 2018
  • Qualcomm CR7!
    Would you be okay to go back to your home country if somehow things don’t work out here?
    Jun 21, 2018 6
    • Google XVWX88
      Serious question. How did you get a mortgage.

      Did the bank not view you a risk as a non legal immigrant?
      Jun 21, 2018
    • Oscar / Eng
      tc/gtfo

      Oscar Eng

      BIO
      Hi. I am real and I am pretty friendly. Just here for some happiness.
      tc/gtfomore
      OP
      Sure. I have a social security number thanks to DACA. I have stable income since 2013. My parents have already bought the house so it’s just me refinancing to pay back our friends and relatives. Initially we went to a local bank at a variable rate, and about two years ago I was able to apply for citi’s loan once I have enough credit score. To bank, I have an asset (my house) already, and I have a high income. So even if I am forced to leave this country, the bank can still take my home. To them I am more reliable than the Americans due to my income and credit history.
      Jun 21, 2018
    • Microsoft / Eng MakeMsftGA
      Wait so you have a work permit but you’re barred from entering the US?!
      Jun 21, 2018
    • Oscar / Eng
      tc/gtfo

      Oscar Eng

      BIO
      Hi. I am real and I am pretty friendly. Just here for some happiness.
      tc/gtfomore
      OP
      I came with a visa. Overstaying for more than 180 days, accordingly to the present law, I am barred from entering for 10 years. Trump proposed a permeant ban, don’t remember where the proposal is at now.

      I have a social because of DACA. DACA is an executive order that Mr. Obama had signed, which gave people like me who were brought to America at young age to have obtain a work permit (EAD), renewable every two years. We are thankful for DACA, otherwise 700,000 of us have no idea what to do once we have finished high schools and colleges.
      Jun 21, 2018
    • Twitter / Eng Fnz39
      Wow. That’s quite a predicament you’re in. I hope this works out for you.
      Jun 22, 2018
  • Microsoft Yuk
    I think having DACA to stay is bipartisan, but that comes with secure boarder, otherwise US becomes open boarder and people can just come with minor.

    I am sorry for what you are going through, but it will all end well. I got a feeling for this.
    Jun 21, 2018 3
    • Oscar / Eng
      tc/gtfo

      Oscar Eng

      BIO
      Hi. I am real and I am pretty friendly. Just here for some happiness.
      tc/gtfomore
      OP
      Thank you. I also believe we have to have a solution that is both sensible for enforcement and humane. This will end eventually, but probably after the election. I have a feeling we will have another continuing resolution (CR) like every year.
      Jun 21, 2018
    • Google FontAr
      Because that worked so well the last time we tried it...
      Jun 21, 2018
    • Compass / Eng
      FUPayMe

      Compass Eng

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      FUPayMemore
      You can’t even construct a complete sentence, I’m not sure I trust your judgment on foreign policy...
      Jun 21, 2018
  • Sapient Razorfish
    Ifscbkd

    Sapient Razorfish

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    Google
    BIO
    TensorFlow. Deepmind. DARPA
    Ifscbkdmore
    What’s the most difficult part about becoming a US citizen?
    Jun 21, 2018 4
    • Microsoft ToTheMoooo
      There is no pathway. So the “difficult” part is he or she can’t even try.
      Jun 21, 2018
    • Oscar / Eng
      tc/gtfo

      Oscar Eng

      BIO
      Hi. I am real and I am pretty friendly. Just here for some happiness.
      tc/gtfomore
      OP
      I am being sponsored by my parents. But i am over 21 when they submitted the petition. They are still green card holders, and they were sponsored by my older sister who is married to our family’s mutual friend’s son. Her marriage isn’t a fraud, so I am lucky.

      It will take me another 5-8 years before my application begins processing. We are short on immigration judges. It’s overwhelming. Instead of hiring more judges and more federal employees to help, we are wasting billions on failed military projects. I believe now judges are subjected to some tougher DOJ mandates preventing the judges from making certain decisions.
      Jun 21, 2018
    • Sapient Razorfish
      Ifscbkd

      Sapient Razorfish

      PRE
      Google
      BIO
      TensorFlow. Deepmind. DARPA
      Ifscbkdmore
      Thank you. Hope all goes well.
      Jun 21, 2018
  • Facebook ZUCC
    you have to go back
    Jun 21, 2018 1
    • Oscar / Eng
      tc/gtfo

      Oscar Eng

      BIO
      Hi. I am real and I am pretty friendly. Just here for some happiness.
      tc/gtfomore
      OP
      :) thanks, I do want to travel outside though. I am locked.
      Jun 21, 2018
  • VMware bububu
    While legal immigrants should certainly take priority over criminals, I am not convinced at all that the government should be too concerned by immigrants' interests at all.
    Jun 21, 2018 8
    • VMware bububu
      Ok, here is my perspective. Plain and simple. California is full. Stretched beyond it's capacity to house people. And more illegals - even if they obey other laws (but why would they?) and pay taxes (never head of illegals doing so) put even more cars on the roads and hike already unbearable housing prices even more. So - nothing personal, but you being here is not in my interests.
      Jun 21, 2018
    • Oscar / Eng
      tc/gtfo

      Oscar Eng

      BIO
      Hi. I am real and I am pretty friendly. Just here for some happiness.
      tc/gtfomore
      OP
      Not all illegals pay taxes, but I do, and many do. Those of us who do pay taxes - as a starter, not paying taxes is bad for future application, but I do believe in doing my part.

      I am not sure if CA is full. Bay area is full not because of illegals. It’s the booming of the technology industry.
      Illegals do not push the housing prices higher. Most illegals can’t afford a house. I am just a lucky one.But my buy didn’t push my neighbors to pay more for their home.

      Most of the illegal immigrants do not want to go back so they wouldn’t break laws. They might get a traffic ticket like everyone else. But most are just scared bunch. I know there are gangs and I certainly ack a small portion of Dreamers and DACA recipients have committed crimes or have been charged. But most of us aren’t. Parents brought us here for one reason or another, we are just hoping to be forgiven.


      I can understand the frustration that an illegal suddenly appearing in one’s country is not something I would advocate for and cheer about. But let’s solve this problem. I need a permeant solution. Other than my status, I am just as American as everyone else.
      Jun 21, 2018
    • Intuit MEhkwq
      Why do you think you are American? Just because you were brought here illegally and you go to school and have a job here?
      What do you mean California is not full? Do we have to be as crowded as India to be FULL? Everyone had their tough life and sad stories. Indians didn’t cross the border because their greencard process is more than 100 years. How about the people in Africa and Middle East? 20% of the world population don’t have access to drinkable water. Can they all come to the US illegally?
      I understand you want to fight for your interest because you want a better life. But that doesn’t make it right.
      Jun 21, 2018
    • Oscar / Eng
      tc/gtfo

      Oscar Eng

      BIO
      Hi. I am real and I am pretty friendly. Just here for some happiness.
      tc/gtfomore
      OP
      American value is what makes me believe I am an American. The fact others aren’t here is what we want to work toward: how do we help those who are already here, already integrated into in our economy and community, while redesign our immigration policies such that those who wish to come can come without having to wait 20-30 years. CA is not full because of illegal immigrants. CA has plenty of spaces. It’s one of the largest states in this country.
      Jun 21, 2018
    • Intuit MEhkwq
      Not sure if you realize how many people on this planet wanna come to US. There is already a legal system that gives some of them chance. We can’t take so many people because we have LIMITED RESOURCE. That’s why there’s lottery, merit based immigration visa, refugee visa etc. You can’t just cross the border illegally and expecting to be treated like other people. Same logic here, you can’t just take rich people’s money because they are rich and you are poor. We have a lot of problems in the current immigration system but we don’t need illegal immigrants tell us what we should do, for their interests.
      Jun 21, 2018
  • Google XVWX88
    The scary thing I find with DACA recipients is that we'd not just be giving citizenship to one person. They want to bring their whole extended family.

    And once citizens they'd vote for open boarders.

    If there was a point in the future where one would need to risk there life to defend our country (think WW2) most would defect to a neutral party.

    That's the issue I have with DACA recipients
    Jun 22, 2018 3
    • Oscar / Eng
      tc/gtfo

      Oscar Eng

      BIO
      Hi. I am real and I am pretty friendly. Just here for some happiness.
      tc/gtfomore
      OP
      I can understand the problem with chain migration. But current bill put is years behind so technically we can’t get our family legalized for a good 10-20 years. Brothers and sisters would take 20-30 years. Parents sponsoring siblings is quicker than siblings for siblings, but you are also look at 8-15 years. So while we could give 700,000 people a path to citizenship (the current bill doesn’t cover all 700,000 recipients), chain migration is far from reality.

      When it comes to open border, I cannot speak for everyone, I do not. It’s a misconception that we want an open border. Perhaps some of them want “no Trump wall.” If someone do want an open border - that’s his or her belief.
      Jun 23, 2018
    • Google XVWX88
      @op would you risk your life defending the usa if need be?
      Jun 23, 2018
    • Oscar / Eng
      tc/gtfo

      Oscar Eng

      BIO
      Hi. I am real and I am pretty friendly. Just here for some happiness.
      tc/gtfomore
      OP
      Like joining the military? Sure, if I have to be drafted. Would I want a war? No. I don’t like wars.

      As a law enforcement officer? That’s not what I want to do. As a responsible adult: I am ;) already (maybe not for my own sad life).
      Jun 23, 2018
  • Cisco pgong
    As an h1b holder who understands how fucked up US immigration process is, I can empathize. Your situation is worse than mine and I wish you the best. Hopefully, things get easier.

    Have you considered moving to another country? Say Canada, Europe, South America?
    Jun 21, 2018 2
    • Oscar / Eng
      tc/gtfo

      Oscar Eng

      BIO
      Hi. I am real and I am pretty friendly. Just here for some happiness.
      tc/gtfomore
      OP
      Thank you. I don’t think I, personally, am in the worst situation. Other DACAs are in pretty bad situations. I am lucky. But I get what you mean. The uncertainty sucks. Even though I am a free man here, I feel like living in a prison, not know when I can actually be out and experience more than just here in the US.

      Yes, Canada is a choice, but I’d rather not. It’s a different country and I can’t return to US for 10 years. I am also in the process of adjustment, so I prefer not to give up half-way. But I have to make that decision if I have to. Let’s hope not.

      I hope you will get your GC (if you intend to) sooner. Do you mind share your experience with USCIS/immigration system so far?
      Jun 21, 2018
    • Cisco pgong
      Well, I describe US immigration system in one word: midieval

      For some reason, the letter of the law in immigration is more important than intent. But for every other legal field, the intent matters.

      Also, the real misery with h1b and gc backlog is that their own laws caused so much backlog that they had to come up with patchwork laws which caused further backlog.

      Never once admitting or fixing the root cause: fix the path to green card for everyone and anyone "in line" should not be ejected from it just because they lost their job or be restricted from starting businesses or from being enslaved to their employers. You have burnout? Fuck you. Company folded? Fuck you. Oh, you want to take up a different job than what you got educated for? Prove that you have the skills.

      Dude, I took college 15 years ago. The skills have changed. I have changed as a person by now.

      At the end, I think politicians and government of America should be penalized for not moving their own bureaucracy forward. But that's not gonna happen lol
      Jun 21, 2018
  • Intuit vnOE40
    You came here illegally. Why should the government fix DACA issue first instead of fixing the problem which legal immigrants from China and India face.

    I am not saying DACA should be scrapped. All I am saying is that we should give equal, if not more attention to the problems of legal immigrants.

    There are a few folks on my team from India and China who have to wait for a long time to get green card even though they came here legally.
    Jun 21, 2018 1
    • Oscar / Eng
      tc/gtfo

      Oscar Eng

      BIO
      Hi. I am real and I am pretty friendly. Just here for some happiness.
      tc/gtfomore
      OP
      Immigration advocates have been fighting for a comprehensive immigration reform. We had a bipartisan bill in the Senate and was shut down. We all want this system to be morderniEd So we are not just asking to fix DACA issue.

      I don’t have the power to influence the direction. Obviously I can sound completely hypocritical: if I get a green card would I just not care for the rest of the community? I would be less affected but it doesn’t mean I don’t believe our system is horrible.

      So immigrants, legal or not, would like a solution. It’s all in the politicians’ hand at this point. If the focus seems to be on the dreamers, I apologized. I wish I could do more than just being here. These are my honest words.
      Jun 21, 2018
  • Uber 김정은
    Can you travel outside of US with an advance parole or with your passport?
    Jun 21, 2018 1
    • Oscar / Eng
      tc/gtfo

      Oscar Eng

      BIO
      Hi. I am real and I am pretty friendly. Just here for some happiness.
      tc/gtfomore
      OP
      Right now not possible. USCIS has stopped issuing AP since DACA was rescinded last year. DACA AP was limited to humanitarian reasons (family member dying), business or education. There was a risk that Custom could stop you from entering again, although I have not heard such case.
      Jun 21, 2018
  • VMware bububu
    Which party are you voting for?
    Jun 21, 2018 1
    • Oscar / Eng
      tc/gtfo

      Oscar Eng

      BIO
      Hi. I am real and I am pretty friendly. Just here for some happiness.
      tc/gtfomore
      OP
      If I am a citizen right now, I would vote for Democrats, to regain the House and the Senate. But I despise both parties.
      Jun 21, 2018