AWS vs Azure

Boeing qhjX28
Oct 31 16 Comments

EDIT: Msoft just counter-offered, so updated numbers below.

EDIT 2: Accepted Azure!

hey everyone. exciting times, im fortunate enough to have offers from both azure and aws, partially thanks to this community for helping me interview prep and know what to expect!

I have 2 yoe, but this is my first tech job. Both are cleared positions, fine since I have a TS / SCI. I've visited both sites (Virginia sites for govt work), met the team etc. and both seem really intelligent and relaxed. msoft team is younger. Compensation is comparable. AWS is current king but azure rapidly growing, and landed JEDI, so it's a tough call for me.

TC Breakdown:

- AWS (IoT Greengrass, SDE I):

Base: $130k
Signon Cash: $57k (32 year 1, 25 year 2)
Signon Stock: 45 shares ($80k atm, paid out mostly years 3, 4)
Clearance Bonus: $15k

TC year 1: $188k (includes relo, 401k match and avg performance bonus)
TC year 2: $167k
TC year 3: $172k
TC year 4: $172k

- Msoft Azure (SDE II, level 61):

Base: ̶$̶1̶3̶0̶k̶v $140k
Signon Cash: ̶$̶1̶0̶k̶ ̶ ̶ ̶(̶i̶m̶m̶e̶d̶i̶a̶t̶e̶)̶ $20k over 2 years
Signon Stock: ̶ ̶$̶3̶0̶k̶ $80k (25% vest year 1, then 6.5% every 3 months)
Clearance Bonus: ̶ ̶$̶2̶6̶k̶ $28k

TC year 1: $219k (includes relo, 401k match and avg performance bonus)
TC year 2: $183k
TC year 3: $173k
TC year 4: $173k

Actual roles themselves feel very similar. Work with a small team on building the cloud, and perform govt devops when it arises due to clearance. Amazon is a bit more device facing.

Yes Amazon is slightly higher TC, but i hear WLB sucks there compared to microsoft, and I'll have to wait a few years for amazon TC to catch-up... No guarantee I'll be in one spot for more than 2 years at the moment due to family circumstances. And I know one of the microsoft guys works entirely from home... so there's proof that it's pretty laid back / accommodating.

So, what does Blind think I should do?

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TOP 16 Comments
  • Amazon shmeckly
    the most important factor in your decision should be how well you will work with your manager and team. that makes way more difference than almost anything else since the work looks very similar
    Oct 31 1
    • Boeing qhjX28
      OP
      thanks very much for the insight @shmeckly. I could see myself on both teams, which is what is making this so difficult. However, I am leaning toward Microsoft, as it seems like I'll be more 'on the ground level' of a new product: building azure and bringing it to new markets.
      Oct 31
  • McAfee draxadic
    Microsoft is a much better work environment overall. There are some great spots in aws but very manager dependent.
    Oct 31 0
  • New KkDL36
    Doesn’t Amazon offer a 45k bonus for a TS/SCI? Or do you need an FSP as well. Also what team at azure? I just accepted a position for C+E doing similar cleared work.
    Oct 31 7
    • Polaris Alpha / Eng
      bx44

      Polaris Alpha Eng

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      bx44more
      Ah that's right, my bad, you're right about MS,. It's 25% of base at MS and fixed at Amazon.
      Oct 31
    • Polaris Alpha / Eng
      bx44

      Polaris Alpha Eng

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      bx44more
      How long after you started until your clearance bonus kicked in? I know it's paid out quarterly, but wasn't sure if you get put in immediately or not (I start at MS soon!)
      Oct 31
    • New KkDL36
      I’m in the same boat! It’s a new grad offer so I won’t be starting until July.
      Oct 31
    • Boeing qhjX28
      OP
      interesting insight on the clearance bonuses here... I was offered a one-time (i think) bonus of 20% of base (i dont have a FSP yet, just TS / SCI)
      Nov 1
    • New KkDL36
      Will you be doing on call work? My clearance bonus wasn’t in my actual offer but when I asked my hiring manager she said the position is eligible for the 25% bonus because of TS/SCI + FSP and on call.
      Nov 1
  • Facebook / Eng mturtle
    The AWS level is new grad level. Go Azure and if you don't like it, reinterview at amzn to try to get SDE2 in a year.
    Oct 31 1
    • Boeing qhjX28
      OP
      Great point. I was thinking that as well but wasn't sure, since I don't know the levels well.
      Oct 31
  • Google The Old Nite
    Nice poll options lol. And congrats!
    Oct 31 1
    • Boeing qhjX28
      OP
      thanks! you stinkers didn't even give me a chance to interview, otherwise GCP would be up for consideration too ;)
      Oct 31
  • New XAIP83
    Could you share how you got offers from them? I also have a TS/SCI, and would like to use it for the next role after going through a year of the investigation.
    Nov 4 0

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