HR Issues

Accusing contractors of having ‘fake’ blind profiles

Sephora Bimbinbop
Nov 17

A very obvious higher up came on this platform to attempt to draw a line between contractors and FTE’s at Sephora. They accused contractors on this platform of posing as FTE employees or being ‘fake’ profiles. It seemed like they were trying to say contractor opinions should not be valued on this platform because there is a separate ‘hiring bar’ for people who are hired FT. This person has now deleted the post, I assume, as another attempt to get rid of evidence and valid points that were raised by not only Sephora employees, but anyone who read the post.

I want to reiterate in this new post that it’s absurd to suggest there is any difference between the two classifications (aside from the clear exclusion contractors experience - ie not being allowed to attend any events or getting any perks that FTE’s receive). I have watched people get hired into FTE roles who cannot do their jobs and create problems for everybody. The only reason a person gets hired directly into a FTE position off the street at Sephora is if they know the person who is doing the hiring. To suggest there is a different ‘bar’ for people who are hired directly is frankly ridiculous, incorrect, and insensitive to all of the people who have been contracting at Sephora for years illegally through a loophole. These are the people who undoubtedly work harder than FTE’s because they come into work every day knowing they could be cut at any moment.

This post feels aggressive and jumbled to me now that I’ve written it out a second time. It doesn’t make as much sense without the context of the executive’s ridiculous comments. But I felt this was important information that needs to be released on this platform in a place where this higher up cannot delete it.

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  • EMC ganddoo
    Contractors are not the same as FTE in almost all companies
    Nov 1731
    • New EVlp62
      What's sephora
      Nov 20
    • SecureWorks EUE1337
      Cosmetics
      Nov 20
    • Undisclosed Wmebuql
      It’s called co-employment google it - that’s why contractors are treated differently because they work for there agency and are paid by that company
      Nov 20
    • Sephora syBk12
      They are actually purposely misclassifying people. OP is right. Some of what they are doing is not legal.
      Nov 20
    • Google alumnius
      So why post this to the tech lounge instead of the Sephora lounge?
      Nov 20
    • Sephora Ugfs35
      @google because...it’s an HR issue
      Nov 20
    • Amazon TCT snoop
      Who cares about Sephora? You sell face paint to stereotypes.
      Nov 20
    • Booking.com B.leaving
      Train on leetstick 💄and gtfo
      Nov 20
    • Amazon beffbesos
      I was a contractor in India with TC : 8.3k 3 years back . Now lucky to be in the best place for Tech making 200k+ . What I would like to say is not everyone would have the opportunity to start at the best place . But hard work and urge in the end takes you to a better place
      Nov 20
    • Facebook lulz1
      Don’t feel entitled. Contractors are not employees
      Nov 21
  • Google chupanibre
    What the fuck is Sephora?
    Nov 1714
    • Intuit ueegdetu
      not all women need to wear makeup to look good
      Nov 20
    • Spotify WizzAir
      Not all men need to date a girl to know what sephora is
      Nov 20
    • Dell Sfoi33
      A record label
      Nov 20
    • Microsoft B117
      It's a sex position
      Nov 20
    • Twitch Qwernry
      ^ Why’s Microsoft not a $1T company yet!
      Nov 20
    • Apple Seahawks22
      oooh @Twitch going straight for Microsoft’s life, can we get a BIG YIKES in the chat?
      Nov 20
    • Flexport MBenioff
      Music radio site
      Nov 20
    • Microsoft Frede
      It's a French company selling perfume and cosmetics. It's part of lvmh, in the same branch than Guerlain, Christian Dior and Givenchy.
      I knew the company in france, the management was very different than what youre describing, which is forbidden by law there.
      I'm sorry for you.
      Nov 20
    • Twitter Wax paper
      U r obviously still a virgin.
      Nov 20
    • Twitter TWTCortex
      ^ this
      Nov 21
  • Amazon YFdu24
    What do people do at Sephora? Do you create new makeup?
    Nov 1714
    • New H1B.
      @mrAmaze you don't just stay in your bubble, you are also dumb. Or maybe the two are related.
      Nov 20
    • Wayfair addA30
      Wait but really though, what does Sephora do with computers?
      Nov 20
    • Microsoft XrMs41
      It’s kind of amazing how pretentious FAANG assholes can be.
      Nov 20
    • UPS Ufgk43
      They have a website. They have thousands of stores. I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that might require 1 or 2 computers.
      Nov 20
    • New H1B.
      Haha really Wayfair? We all can ask this for a furniture store too.
      Nov 20
    • Wayfair addA30
      But we're not a furniture store...
      Nov 20
    • UPS Ufgk43
      ...
      Nov 20
    • Chase bcEO41
      JFC.
      Nov 20
    • Amazon WarrenPeas
      A little light in detail but thanks for the post. What all does Sephora do beyond the typical retail IT presence?

      Working at Amazon (and other retailers) we get the same shit outside of the Silicon Valley pretentious circles: Oh nice, you manage deliveries?
      Nov 21
  • Capital One desu
    Higher ups can't delete posts on Blind, you moron.

    Also, there is no "hiring bar" for contractors IIRC -- a manager just asks a fucking contractor company for a resource, and then a resource is blindly dumped in their lap...
    Nov 1710
    • Amazon Bollox
      We interview our contractors.
      Nov 17
    • EMC ganddoo
      I guess the higher up was the OP of that post. So when he deleted his/her post every reply to the post got deleted
      Nov 17
    • VMware StrayDog
      Agree with @desu
      Nov 17
    • Microsoft IEjP42
      Agree with @ganddoo
      Nov 17
    • Sephora Bimbinbop
      OP
      That’s not how it works at Sephora. They have a whole system and they are working it to their benefit. Most of the company is contract or “salaried consultants” nobody gets converted unless you are friends with someone who’s making those decisions.

      And I’m not saying the exec deleted someone else’s post.. someone posted something wild, got a bunch of backlash from other companies for attempting to call these profiles fake or suggesting contractors should not be allowed on there. And then they came back and deleted the whole thread. (I could call you a mean name too, but I don’t feel that makes my point more valid, sorry you feel you had to name call)
      Nov 17
    • Capital One desu
      >And I’m not saying the exec deleted someone else’s post

      Well, obviously I made a rash call there with the name calling. Point taken, and I apologize. Thanks for pointing that out; I need to learn to watch that.

      The old buddy system is definitely bullshit.
      My personal experience at Capital One has inspired me to purchase a book on office politics, in addition to quitting (my last day was Friday).
      I'd recommend Leetcode and giving Sephora the finger by walking out the door for a FAANG company like I did with Capital One. It feels incredibly vindicating. I wish you the best of luck.
      Nov 17
    • Amazon dotard
      >they have a whole system and are working it to their benefit

      What exactly is wrong with that
      Nov 20
    • Intel Digdugduz
      It’s not wrong as long as people aren’t harmed. Contractors are asked to work hours demanded not given a set number. Some weeks are great, some are too much, some are too little. They’re given no benefits of FT but expected to be ready for anything. If you have a contractor that’s been there for years, that a team depends on, why not make them full time? Seen it many times, lived it a few times...
      Nov 20
    • New bIra78
      Lived the above contractor life. Then met people really pulling their weight for 3 years and still not converted.. Definitely disheartening to see.
      Nov 20
    • Sephora Xiott
      I think the person who posted it deleted it because there was backlash from commenters.
      Nov 20
  • Facebook sandberg
    Contractors are second class citizens. This post is so useless.
    Nov 2014
    • Microsoft Dudtvbkc
      It's amazing how anyone from blizzard have balls to say anything after the fact that this "gaming" company doesn't care, or know anything about gamers.
      Nov 21
    • Blizzard others
      K bro
      Nov 21
    • Microsoft Dudtvbkc
      K bro your Diablo immortal
      Nov 21
    • Blizzard others
      K bro not on Diablo suck a dick
      Nov 21
    • Microsoft Dudtvbkc
      No u
      Nov 21
    • Facebook Rtrt
      Came here to express my disgust with blizzard after D:I announcement. The company seems to be clueless as fuck.

      Go learn from GGG. Then come back and talk shit.
      Nov 22
    • Blizzard others
      Fight me IRL
      Nov 22
    • Microsoft Dudtvbkc
      Haha, your fight me IRL would be IRL on a PC with a WoW character you made.
      Nov 22
    • Cisco Lluq65
      I love it when people from a company that gave (still giving) its host country away to a foreign power think they have a right to talk smack about ANY other company. Why don’t you come back with something to say after you tender your resignation, then maybe your words will count for something. I’d rather work for a tier 99 company than work for FB.
      Nov 23
    • Microsoft HappyThank
      I love it when someone from Cisco post/ twice with and without its company name.
      Nov 23
  • Square nnnggg
    I thought sephora was a radio station?
    Nov 176
  • Microsoft Pixelates
    What’s the message of this post in 1 sentence? What are you trying to prove and why?
    Nov 174
    • Capital One desu
      It sounds like OP is pissed about how contractors are getting shafted at Sephora by office politics and the "old buddy" system
      Nov 17
    • Sephora Bimbinbop
      OP
      Yes.
      Nov 17
    • Capital One desu
      Office politics and the old buddy system seem to be a fact of life no matter where you go, including FAANG.

      It's bullshit. I think your situation isn't actually specific to Sephora, and you'll see it no matter where you go (although I know that you aren't looking to get out).

      It sucks to play the same political games that you may have seen people suffer from, but learning how to play them will allow you to identify them and be more of a solution to this problem.
      Nov 17
    • Many companies that are not at the top of their industry or fear the future deploy a large percentage of contracted workforce cause it allows them to cut without having to pay any sort of unemployment. They also don't have to pay benefits for contractors, usually the agency gives shitty benefits that pale in comparison. Also contractors accrue no vacation in nearly all companies (ExxonMobil gave contractors vacation days and raises for on-going / multiyear contracts, but it was nothing compared to FTE, for example).

      This is a shitty loophole that allows companies to reduce their taxes / liabilities that government regulation has allowed.
      Nov 20
  • New User098
    I am a contractor and here's my take:
    1. I had a master's degree and relevant work experience before I joined my current client
    2. My contracting company had a complete interview process before I was made an offer. I have interviewed with a few other companies as well do I can say for sure that my interview process was legit. Also, my client interviewed me before I started working for him.
    3. I have referred 10+ people to my company and only 1 has been made an offer so far (some were rejected at resume screen phase, others during the process).
    4. I work for a client alongside their internal team and there is no discrimination between work allocation between fte and contractor (work is allotted based on time availability of people. Whether or not they are fte/contractors is not even a consideration). We all bring similar skillsets to the table. Some contractors are better at their job than fte and vice versa.
    5. The reasons my client hired contractors are multiple -
    a) Its not a tech company so their visa sponsorship budgets are limited and they usually can't find enough Americans/gc holders to do all the tech/analytics work.
    b) they require people to do specialized work for a few months (example - modify the data warehouse), which means they will have to let the person go once that job is done. There is hiring cost involved and attrition numbers go high. The client has the ease to request contracting companies for headcounts at their convenience without getting into the hiring process.
    c) the client has the option to request another contractor if they end up not liking the one that was provided (which is rare but the option does exist) which is not possible if they hire fte only.

    Hence, I do not see a reason why contractors should be discriminated against.

    Just my 2c
    Nov 181
    • Oracle Uyil
      12 contractors liked your comment
      Nov 21
  • Blackstone cLIy45
    Contractors are treated very poorly everywhere eventhough some of them can be better at their jobs than some FTEs; they always have more to prove.
    The whole thing is just a trick to keep headcount low, has nothing to do with actual merit.
    My advice, tolerate being a contractor for up to a year, if could not get converted to FTE, leave for another place. It's not worth it if you can't become an FTE, everyday is an insult, it's literally second class, and not allowing people to join events is proof of that.
    Nov 184
    • Facebook Synthetic
      Nov 20
    • Google Pfjhebs
      It can never be 100% because there are laws and regulations preventing it. Google tries its best to include them. On the other hand, I've heard some contracting companies got pissed when we gave contractors laptops (don't know if true)
      Nov 21
    • Google memorable
      There are laws and regulations preventing it, but Google is the one choosing to hire them as contractors when in most cases they could easily just hire them as employees.
      Nov 21
    • Google Pfjhebs
      No not most cases nor is it easy. A quick counter example is flexible/quick/temp headcount. It takes forever to go through FTE interview process and the company sinks a lot of money into it. Contractors are quick and “disposable.” If google absorbed all the contractors, you would then hear even more complaints on “bar lowering” and how companies are so harsh for seemingly unexpectedly firing a bunch of employees all the time with no heads up.
      Nov 22
  • Undisclosed Rnx677
    I employ both FTEs and contractors. Their skills are indistinguishable, but there are very significant business and legal distinctions, which many do not realize.
    1- US co-employment law essentially forces employers to treat contractors differently. Not because employers don’t want to invite contractors to events or treat them like every other employee. It’s because of the risk of a co-employment lawsuit. Many famous examples of this happening.
    2- Contractors almost always earn a higher salary than their FTE peers. I have had many situations where a contractor we were converting to an FTE was disappointed to lean that they were going to experience a reduction in cash flow. It is of course offset by lower payroll taxes, benefits, job security, and career growth potential.
    3- Employers are not permitted to interview contractors. It happens of course, but technically speaking interviewing a contractor runs afoul of co-employment law. You state your need and contracting company provides a resource. If the need is unmet you tell the contracting company and they provide a different resource. No performance reviews or coaching like an FTE. It’s transactional.
    4- Because of co-employment laws and the transactional relationship between employers and contractors, employer can release a contractor for any reason or no reason with no notice. The employer gets flexibility and contractor gets paid a premium as a result.

    In my view it’s a transparent relationship, contractors are able to seek out other gigs, find better employment, earn higher wages, etc. If it’s not for you, then go compete with the FTEs for those jobs. But there’s no sense entering into a contract that is fundamentally different than full time employment and then complaining that it’s different. Just my 0.02.
    Nov 202
    • Undisclosed Bawx50
      3 is wherein a large amount of the “befoulment” lives. Fortunately at a large enough enterprise such as where I am we can largely avoid this by letting HR handle it. If we find a contractor sub-optimal, they are “sent back” :)
      Nov 20
    • Undisclosed aOxU47
      💯
      Nov 20
  • Undisclosed mDBW53
    FTE or GTFO
    Nov 202
    • Undisclosed aOxU47
      Lol
      Nov 20
    • Sephora Ukdfhs467
      Disclose your company or GTFO! Seriously, don’t be a coward.
      Nov 20
  • Google ↙️
    you sound butthurt. no one cares
    Nov 181
  • VMware lRQQ72
    Why the fuck do you think contractors should be treated same as fte? They are a fucking disposable resource. We do interview them but I can dump them tomorrow if I dont need them or like them.
    Good contractors never go via agency but corp2corp, get paid more than fte as a comp for the flexibility and have an extensive network that will sometimes even bid on them.
    Everyone else is just a slave and if they don't like it they should not get themselves into the position at all.
    Reminds me of those fuckers at Msft who were complaining they don't get stock and tried to sue..
    Learn your place and if you don't like it gtfo
    Nov 202
    • Sephora Hbdxu
      Fuck off. Mmmkay?
      Nov 20
    • VMware lRQQ72
      Lol seems like you need a reality check. Your career trajectory may improve... Or not. Sa.e as knowing the right execs, being visible etc. All these things fucking matter. And ignorance of so many will not change that.
      Nov 20
  • NCR Corporation Bandarchod
    I thought Blind is used by techies only. Now make-up artists started posting too 🤪
    Nov 205
    • Southwest Airlines pAPc51
      Do you assume any non tech company has no tech department? You must think I'm a pilot then lol
      Nov 20
    • NCR Corporation Bandarchod
      @Southwest you sound like a customer care agent
      Nov 20
    • Southwest Airlines pAPc51
      And you must be a POS? get it? Haha...
      Nov 20
    • Medallia Floss2day
      Don’t be so small-minded.
      Nov 21
  • Amazon bz1acvo
    TC or GTFO
    Nov 202
    • Google Duuuuuuude
      I'm actually really interested in Sephora TC.
      Nov 20
    • Google pornhubb
      Scrolled too far down to see this comment
      Nov 21
  • Undisclosed aOxU47
    Um contractors are NOT the same as FTE because...oh right, they aren’t employed wherever they are contracting. They are paid via a third party, hence you are just being treated as if you are a consultant or contractor. It’s not about competence, it’s literally that you are not employed by the company you are a contractor at. You aren’t invited to company events, etc because of co-employment risk. Contractors cry wolf all the time, it boggles my mind you think you should be treated like an FTE.
    Nov 203
    • Undisclosed Bawx50
      Yeah no um, not a contractor, but tech cos are NOTORIOUS for not staying on “their side” of the line with FTE-like requirements and policies for contractors to the point where they are effectively employees. Ask Microsoft how that works out :)
      Nov 20
    • Discover Financial Services aOxU47
      That was 18 years ago haha - the entire reason companies, ALL companies, treat their employees and contractors so distinctly is bc of what happened to MSFT so long ago.
      Nov 20
    • Undisclosed Wmebuql
      Couldn’t agree more . . .
      Nov 20
  • Sephora Ukdfhs467
    You are supported OP! ✊
    Nov 200
  • Microsoft SupDoc
    When the fuck did blind start letting every fucking company on? How the fuck is Sephora tech or banking. Who’s next? McDonald employees?
    Nov 2112
    • Microsoft SupDoc
      Blahblah8, no. I’m suggesting blind stays with their original business model which is the same business model that everyone liked and signed up for. I personally signed up because it was an anonymous forum for tech employees - which we both are. If I wanted to see posts from Sephora I’d work there.

      It’s like you joining a car forum and then all of the sudden it becomes a motorcycle forum.
      Nov 21
    • Microsoft SupDoc
      @floss2day. I don’t even know how to answer your idiotic comment. Everyone employs technology in some form or another. This isn’t the “internet,” it’s an anonymous forum for tech employees. As in tech employees working in tech companies. Not the IT guy, at the printer shop down your block.
      Nov 21
    • Undisclosed manbaby
      Yeah maybe, but Sephora? They make vanity products. Their customer base is insecure women.
      Nov 22
    • Microsoft SupDoc
      @manbaby. Your comments get dumber and dumber. I’m starting to think you hide your employer only because you work at Taco Bell.
      Nov 22
    • Undisclosed Lluq65
      Who said tech employees doesn’t include tech employees at companies not selling tech? Open your closed mind.
      Nov 23
    • Microsoft SupDoc
      The fucking world dude. When the Wall Street journal or Bloomberg talk about tech driving the market down, they definitely don’t mean the IT guys at Sephora. They mean a tech company.

      I’m not saying any of you are better or worse than any employee at any top tech firm, but the companies are certainly different. It’s not just my opinion, but the opinion of the general population (including financial institutions and the media).
      Nov 23
    • Undisclosed Lluq65
      I agree on the meaning of tech company when discussing the tech industry. I don’t agree that Blind is just for tech company employees. For that matter, I don’t even think it’s just for tech department employees. It’s for professionals in general. For what it’s worth, I am an engineer at a large tech company and I don’t care about Sephora’s business. But I might care about their technical issues and I might care about the issues they face as professionals. Widen your perspective, dude.
      Nov 23
    • Microsoft SupDoc
      It’s not about widening my perspective, dude. It’s about blind changing into something else. At some point it was an anonymous community for tech employees - that’s just a fact. Now it’s an anonymous community for any type of company, tech o not. That was my whole issue. My problem, if any, would be with blind changing their model. Don’t have any beef with any tech or non tech employee from any type of company.

      The original argument from Floss2day was that Sephora was a tech company because it hired tech employees, that’s ludicrous. Had he made the same argument you made, then this conversation would have been over. Blind changing it’s business model and me having to deal with it, is a far superior argument than “we’re all tech and you don’t own the internet.”
      Nov 24
    • Undisclosed manbaby
      Contractor here - can't really participate in this conversation anymore. I have real work to do while FTEs circle jerk.
      Nov 26
    • Microsoft SupDoc
      Sure.
      Nov 26
  • This comment was deleted by original commenter.

    • Sephora Hbdxu
      This is what is happening and what OP is talking about.
      Nov 20
  • Undisclosed Bawx50
    Tech management have real concerns about this platform. It (easily) bypasses “Company Messaging” and informs potential talent of the realities of these companies, internally :)
    Nov 200
  • Apple Marijuana
    It’s simple then. Don’t give @company.com email addresses to contractors.
    Nov 212
    • Sephora JGloss
      SEPHORA recently started adding the word “contractor” to contractor email addresses.
      Nov 24
    • Apple Marijuana
      Good.
      Nov 25
  • Sephora Hbdxu
    The leadership at Sephora is kinda tragic. Yes, we have the largest percentage of women in tech among big companies, but that’s one of the few redeeming points of working there.
    Nov 200
  • Amazon CfDef5
    Contractors are not people..
    Nov 200
  • It’s not like it’s that hard to get a job at Sephora. There’s a reason why someone doesn’t want to join a company full time.

    I told my recruiters that I prefer contract positions to permanent before joining bc I don’t want to leave w a stigma of quitting too soon (if it doesn’t work out). If i actually like the company and the team after working there then I’d be happy to join full time.
    Nov 203
    • Sephora Xiott
      I’m a SWE at Sephora, and your claim that it’s not hard to get a job there is BS. Maybe not if you work in a retail store, but for the tech and creative side at the SF office, it is. Thank you for your unhelpful thoughts though.
      Nov 20
    • Lyft g7f0
      The stigma you mention simply is not real, unless you do it on repeat
      Nov 20
    • I’m a SWE too FYI. I can tell you personally that I will never work for Sephora unless it’s a contract position.

      I would work at Sephora because I spend thousands of hours at the store and have ideas on how to improve the customer experience in store. But if I don’t know the culture of your company, and I wouldn’t want to risk joining full time.
      Nov 20
  • Lyft g7f0
    No one cares, please suffer quietly next time.
    Nov 203
    • Amazon Yolo!
      Really? You’d rather not have commented..
      Nov 20
    • Undisclosed Voltaire
      If you don’t care, then why did you comment? Dumbass!
      Nov 20
    • Clover Health doenfh
      Trust, they care. They just needed to be heard bc there’s nothing for them to offer.
      Nov 21
  • Uber has this problem too. Basically, Blind is shooting itself in the foot by not having proper moderation of 1) ensuring employees are still employed 2) Not allowing or identifying contractors
    Nov 201
    • Undisclosed Crunchy🍯
      Are you silly? I was a contractor at Uber for several years and as of last year, I’m now FTE at L3. Its not a “problem” to allow contractors to join the app. There’s no requirement that you have to be FTE.

      Why shouldn’t contractors be identified or allowed? You sound foolish and elitist.
      Nov 23
  • Undisclosed Voltaire
    Reading this thread I can see the emotional disconnect between tech and creative folks
    Nov 200
  • Salesforce Blahlah12
    Contractors have a lower bar at almost every company, sorry. That’s just the reality.
    Nov 200
  • Undisclosed Just_dance
    This has nothing to do with skill sets or abilities. The nature of contractor positions is different. It’s usually less costly (less liability) to hire contractors. However it does not mean contractors should be treated badly by the company, there are just fewer laws protecting them. If you hate contractor job you are currently in, you should go find an FTE position elsewhere.
    Nov 200
  • Amazon jqy
    I hired couple of contractors before. Mostly phone interview then that’s it. Hiring bar is for sure different because we can let them go very quick and not expensive.
    Nov 200
  • Undisclosed manbaby
    The only difference between FTE and contractor is that a FTE would strangle a puppy if asked and the contractor would quit.
    Nov 216
    • Microsoft SupDoc
      Sure bro. Only the ethical and moral compass of contractors points true North. Keep telling yourself that.
      Nov 21
    • Amazon jqy
      Sure bro. Contractor can quit anytime. Most time is being asked to quit.
      Nov 21
    • Undisclosed manbaby
      Sure bro. Instead of asking us to quit, why not just not hire us to begin with? Oh, that's right...you're too busy rounding up puppies to strangle to get real work done. Jesus, every day some new horror is revealed about a FAANG company and yet you still hold on to the belief your kids are gonna respect you once they don't need you anymore.
      Nov 22
    • Microsoft SupDoc
      Manbaby, you’re beyond help.
      Nov 22
    • Undisclosed manbaby
      Maybe, but I've been in this business over 20 years.
      Nov 23
    • Microsoft SupDoc
      Yeah and I’m bill gates.

      20 years in tech, at your “undisclosed” company? You must be extremely wealthy, since you’re basically a co-founder/SVP at a tech company with that much tenure. Please do tell.
      Nov 23
  • Undisclosed pub
    Contractor != FTE. Bye
    Nov 182
    • New User098
      Read my comment below
      Nov 18
    • Undisclosed jstwrkhere
      I’m pretty sure some contractors do your job better than you do
      Nov 18
  • Google Yoshka
    Why the hell is Sephora on Blind?
    Nov 211
    • Undisclosed Crunchy🍯
      They have a creative and engineering DP for their site and store. What sort of stupid question is that Google?
      Nov 23
  • SpaceX uevh5
    To everyone that thinks that "contractor < fte" - this is because your shitty company/department has a fucked hiring process.
    Nov 200
  • Microsoft andy2653
    Real question is are contractors even human ? Why are we talking about them as if they have feelings ?
    Nov 200
  • Microsoft cout<<
    Lots of reasons for people to be vendors instead of FTE. No judgment.

    That said there are some common contractual difference. Some places allow for venders to join events if their company pays for your portion. FTE budgets (morale/event etc) are highly managed. In some cases there are insurability reasons.

    I suggest you separate out the inappropriate distinctions and focus on those.
    Nov 200
  • Intuit j123x
    Sephora has hired few new managers, who in turn hired some of their friends who are not capable of doing any work. They need contractors to do these people's job and Sephora employees are not similar to FTEs of any other companies.
    Nov 200
  • Tableau Qlikbait
    It wasn’t obvious to me from that post that they were “obviously higher up.” I just though they were stuck up, elitist, etc.
    Nov 201
  • Facebook emmg87
    Wait, Sephora has Engineering Department? I was under impression they have outsourced all tech departments to India
    Nov 201
    • Sephora Jkd492
      Sephora IT is about 60% FTE
      Nov 20
  • Flagged by the community.

    • New User098
      Read my comment below
      Nov 18
  • Lyft CESTMOI
    Wow. #PettySerfs 😹
    Nov 171
  • Undisclosed ingress
    Contractors in actual sense are not the same as FTEs. Hiring bar is just one of the reason. If you don’t like being a contractor and think you do better than any FTE, just apply and join as an FTE and you will be better off.
    Nov 210
  • Mozilla o45au2
    Haha, are you trying to suppress the freedom of speech and internet like Mozilla highups?
    Nov 200
  • Flagged by the community.

  • Credit Karma Lacroixfan
    Nobody cares
    Nov 201
  • Facebook Rtrt
    How does it feel for males to work in such women-dominated company? Do you feel on the reverse side of other SV companies? Do you feel less relevant because you are not using products on daily basis?
    Nov 220
  • I’m with you OP. Although there ARE differences between full-time and contract employment, the person who started that other thread you mentioned was just an elitist FTE who wanted to let everyone know they were “better” than contractors bc they had passed a “higher bar”. Really just putting down contractors to make themselves feel better.
    Nov 210
  • Amazon Puffalope
    As someone who shops Sephora this is news to me. I would hope they change this after being called out.

    Where is the NYT to do an expose on this and draw attention?

    Still going to shop at Sephora though because sadly it’s a convenient place to find the brands I use.
    Nov 210
  • Cisco Ard
    Fukcing who cares. Blaady TC of gtfo
    Nov 210
  • Twitter Wax paper
    Virgins spotted. (Everyone who doesn’t know what Sephora is)
    Nov 200

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