Admission bonds

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Apr 22 29 Comments

Trump wants visitors to the US to have to pay "admission bonds" to ensure they leave the country when their visa expires. Overstay your visa it otherwise violate its terms and you don't get the money back.

Part of a new push to crack down on visa overstay as his new immigration target.

As of now is a proposal and not yet a rule.

https://www.apnews.com/e89102fedd8b4e86b6fe254253a1e91c

"The president signed a memorandum ordering the secretary of state and the secretary of homeland security to submit plans within four months to crack down on overstays, such as punishing countries whose citizens have high rates of overstays and requiring foreign travelers to post "admission bonds" that would be repaid once they leave the country."

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  • New worlz
    If the bonds are cheap, it's likely to be innefective. If expensive, that's going to reduce tourism since people won't have the money to both travel and pay for it. Tourism is a big industry.
    Apr 22 20
    • Intel GJrT44
      If jobs in the US are exploitative to the illegal immigrant, what do you consider the job (or lack thereof) that person had in their home country?

      You are conflating a product with inelastic demand to be exploitative. Pharma bro exploited the monopolistic regulatory structure of the United States government. I would agree that the US government patent policy is exploitative. In an ideal world, free market competition eliminates that exploitation, just like how the free market eliminates the exploitation of non-criminal workers (unfortunately, illegal immigrant workers are criminals).

      You might as well argue that giving prisoners an opportunity to work / do something other than sitting in a cell doing nothing is exploitative when they still have a choice whether they want to participate.
      Apr 23
    • Square / Eng SQ
      You are making poor comparisons. A prisoner who is housed and fed making a voluntary decision is much different than someone who "voluntarily" takes a job under the table making less than minimum wage and is trying to find a way to survive.

      It's obvious you grew up with wealth and privilege.
      Apr 23
    • Intel GJrT44
      Lol, most definitely did not (my high school was in the bottom 10% of a state in the bottom half of states). I’m one of the few on here who didn’t grow up in the liberal elite bubble.

      The person voluntarily walked across the border and committed a crime. They are fortunate not to be in jail. They can voluntarily walk back if they find they are being exploited.
      Apr 24
    • Google / Eng shito
      Here is what I am saying - it is illegal to hire undocumented. How do you manage to see the other way when that happens? If we were strict about these violations (increase penalty and jail times from slap in the wrist today to something more serious, this problem will go away). When there is no way to earn money, people will not cross the border. The amount of money you spend on deporting folks would be far lesser.

      Unfortunately, the political realities dictates that these enforcement is non existent today and we need them to pick veggies. So it will continue to be non existent in the future. We care about having a pool of labor that is constrained - because folks who are citizens will ask lot more money to do the same physical labor - so basically this is market distortion. However, to keep a tight leash on the employee, we let them stay illegal. I can guarantee that the central vallyes ideal position is to not solve the issue, but let the folks not be deported enmasse and be allowed to cross borders (illegally), so they can get more folks, and keep the cost of picking veggies low.

      Let me explain in words that you may understand: if you wilfully hire someone who is a criminal and give him or her money, you are abetting them. No? Isn't that what every employer who hires undocumented is doing ? How do we go around with a squad to deport people but not a squad to jail those who employed them.

      This is the same technique that DEA uses - they usually cut off money supply to the system to stop drug smuggling. Nothing that I am saying is new to anyone who actually cares about solving the problem.
      Apr 24
    • Intel GJrT44
      There are going to be a shitload of rich southern Californian households in jail in your world.

      The DEA shouldn’t be a good example of anything other than terrible results.
      Apr 24
  • Intel GJrT44
    Great idea.
    Apr 22 0
  • Uber / Eng nYf6sJ
    Trump is smart
    Apr 23 0
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    This would require the US keeping accurate records of people leaving
    Apr 23 4
    • Uber / Eng nYf6sJ
      It's called I94.
      Of course illegals don't have them.
      Apr 23
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      I94 isn’t accurate
      Apr 23
    • Uber / Eng nYf6sJ
      Quite accurate now after being digitalized.
      But of course if you cross boarder illegally...
      Apr 24
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      I’ve personally experienced I94 mess up and show me as leaving the country when I didn’t
      Apr 24
  • Twitter Oomnj
    Dur dur - he’s a racist who only thinks illegal immigration happens with folks from South America on the southern border
    Apr 22 0

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