Adobe Senior CS (L5) Offer - Negotiation

Upsight, Inc. tEJr02
Jul 11, 2018 20 Comments

Mighty folks at Blind,
I was made an offer today by Adobe for the role of Senior Computer Scientist (L5) in the Adobe Marketing Cloud and Analytics org.

Offer being made :

Annual Base:
- 206k USD

Stock:
- Assuming Current stock price: ~250 USD
- Total stock Value : 160K USD (650 total RSUs)
- Annual Stock Value : 40K USD

Bonus:
- Annual 5% = ~10k
- Sign-on Bonus: 25k
- First Year End Bonus: 25k

Total first year compensation: 307k
Year on Year compensation (base + stock + 10k yoy bonus) : 260k (assuming salary/stock grant remains same after first year)

How does this offer look for L5 (Senior Computer Scientist) ? How far can I negotiate and on which portions of the offer?

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  • Adobe
    Leetmyway

    Adobe

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    Leetmywaymore
    3-5% refresher
    Jul 11, 2018 4
    • Facebook GTif54
      3-5% refresher for all levels ? Everybody in the team gets it?
      Jul 11, 2018
    • Adobe
      Leetmyway

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      Leetmywaymore
      That's discretionary. But that's the average I've heard
      Jul 11, 2018
    • Upsight, Inc. tEJr02
      OP
      Can you explain how a refresher typically works? if i get a 5% refresher, does that apply to the full stock grant? so if 100RSUs are granted, does that mean I am granted 5 RSUs more at the end of first year?
      Jul 12, 2018
    • Adobe / Eng
      Hefeweizen

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      Sr Engg Manager. 18 yoe.
      Hefeweizenmore
      Numbers change every year. Usually 40% of the team gets it. Finally depends on the budget for the year. Focus is on ensuring people who get it, get a reasonable amount instead of the reward being spread thin.
      Sep 11, 2018
  • Upsight, Inc. tEJr02
    OP
    Update: Adobe Raised the Year over Year Compensation

    Base : $220K
    Annual Bonus (5%) : $11000

    RSU : 775 RSU
    Total = $200,000 over 4 years.
    Annual Stock value = $50,000 per year

    Bonus : $20000 each year for 4 years . This will be paid out at year 1,2,3,4 anniversary.

    Sign-on Bonus: 20k

    First year total comp : 320k
    Year over Year comp: 302k for each of 4 years ( assuming salary/stock grant remains same after first year).

    Lemme know how this looks to you.
    Jul 13, 2018 2
    • Yahoo Genius
      320k for 12 yoe, for software engineer position that would be low. Not sure for computer scientist.
      Jul 13, 2018
    • HPE xzyF41
      Is year over year bonus standard? I'm negotiating an offer and they are saying 7% annual bonus. No mention of year over year bonus.
      Aug 1
  • Autodesk IXBa07
    Did you end up accepting?
    Jul 17, 2018 0
  • Upsight, Inc. tEJr02
    OP
    Also, do folks have an idea of what the annual refresher looks like at Adobe? Is there a range (performance based)? The HR said it's pretty ambiguous and the value can be "anything".
    Jul 11, 2018 0
  • Upsight, Inc. tEJr02
    OP
    Update: They raised base to 220k, annual stock grant to 50k, and added in a year over year bonus of 20k. So with the 5% annual AIP bonus the year over year comp comes to 305k. Also a first year sign on bonus of 20k.

    I have accepted the offer.
    Jul 17, 2018 1
    • Autodesk IXBa07
      thanks - congrats! Isnt it like this:
      220 + .5% + 50 + 20 = 301k?
      & 321k first year?
      Jul 17, 2018
  • Autodesk IXBa07
    Did they tell you the level? 54 or 55?
    Jul 13, 2018 1
    • Upsight, Inc. tEJr02
      OP
      I dunno about 54/55 ..they said the decision was between L4 / L5 and they gave me Level: L5 (Senior Computer Scientist II ) based on my interview performance.
      Jul 13, 2018
  • Autodesk IXBa07
    Yoe? Is this tubemogul? If so you may want to read reviews about it. The offer looks par minus the bonus.
    Jul 11, 2018 1
    • Upsight, Inc. tEJr02
      OP
      No, this is based on San Jose (Omniture Analytics).

      Yoe = 12 years.
      Jul 11, 2018
  • Everbridge / Eng wzVc78
    Is this pay at Bay area?
    Dec 10, 2018 0
  • Adobe
    Leetmyway

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    Leetmywaymore
    Well that's Adobe for you
    Jul 11, 2018 0
  • Yahoo Genius
    For 12 yoe, that sounds low!
    Jul 11, 2018 0
  • Autodesk IXBa07
    If you fancy yourself with faang, linkedin, or unicorns you can make upto 400k
    Jul 11, 2018 0