What are your thoughts on the repeal of Affirmative Action? Personally this is the only thing that this administration has done that I approve. My parents came here from Asia with no money, and made sure I get the education I need to succeed in this country. I think it’s unfair to limit asian Americans admission to elite colleges just to make spaces for less qualified candidates based on their race. This also applies to the workplace, specifically FANG companies. I am also seeing a lot of comments about the past, I would like to point out that when Asians first arrived in this country, they were enslaved to build railroads. Many of us don’t come from a privilege background either, and we shouldn’t be grouped together because of some outdated stereotypes. Thoughts from the engineering community?
Affirmative action is institutional discrimination against certain race or group of people that are deemed to be inferior intellectually. Democrats like doing this, so they are the biggest racists IMO. Higher education should be merit based, encourage hard work and reward those who work hard and have the potential to contribute to society. I am totally for it. College admission should not be based on your skin color or race that’s irrelevant. I am an Asian too and I received my education in rural area. But I work my butt off to learn and come to this beautiful country for grad school on full scholarship. When I was little, I received much less support than what is offered in the US. I work my way up, got an O-1 visa for work and EB-1B GC. AA encourages lousiness and laziness, and would only put certain race less disvantaged position in longer term, making them more dependent on democraps controlled government.
Fully agree! Merit based admission is the only way to go. If you want a spot? Fucking teach your kids to work for it. And agreed with your dependence on democratic reliance comment.
You're assuming that all their parents are active in their lives and have the luxury of being their for them.
They aren't repealing affirmative action, just reversing Obama-era guidance on execution. But it seems to me that if you're against using race for admissions reasons, you must also be against race being a barrier to having the ability to get to the point of applying to Harvard in the first place. If you repeal affirmative action, what is your plan to address inequality of opportunity? You can't repeal AA without a plan or you'll just make the problem worse.
I’m not saying that race should be a bonus or a barrier in admission. I’m saying race should not be considered at all in admissions. The inequity of opportunity do not come from race, Asians had the highest poverty level in New York until we worked our way out of it by focusing on education. We could implement after school program for the family with less resources, but when it comes to college admissions or job offers, only merit should be considered.
Lol how is it inequality of opportunity? Get good grades get in It was inequality of opportunity for Asian kids who are penalized for being Asian
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Private universities can admit people however they want. Harvard found that without smoothing out asian applicants via “personality” assessments they’d make up 43% of the student body. Stanford would be over 60% asian if they only used Test score and GPA. Largely speaking ending affirmative action at elite universities would greatly benefit Asians and decimate white applicants. White people are literally the biggest beneficiaries of affirmative action.
Ridiculous, first time I heard whites are the biggest beneficiaries of AA. Whites were majority majority in college or jobs before AA was implemented. Percentage of whites dropped after AA, and even a black president was possible after AA!
📵 is important. When there is cell phone, people will work harder.
Disagree completely. It always amazes me how people automatically think that when a women or an African American or a Latino or an Asian apply for a job she/he is less qualified than a white man. Affirmative action was not to introduce privilege, but to correct decision making based on stereotypes. ( BTW, Isn’t it interesting that the system that privileges white man is called “meritocracy”?) Now, this is not to say that Affirmative Action is perfect...it certainly needs improvements. However, we should not forget that the decision to repeal it is based in racism and sexism, like so many other decisions we see these days. To my Asian colleagues and their rightful objections to some colleague application practices....the repeal of affirmative action will not correct it...When Asisns were most discriminated against was well before Affirmative Action was put in place.
I think we are on the same boat here? The reason why some people think whenever a minority application is less qualified is because of Affirmative Action, if everything is merit based, then there would be no question about a minority students’ qualification because we can assume they got in fair and square. The battle against discrimination against Asians is a long one, and I think the college admission process is a good start.
It always puzzled me here. Want to stop racial discrimination - just stop asking "demographics" questions during recruitment process. And stop answering these, btw - I never answer those, or answer them randomly.
Harward asian students scored very low on leadership, if I recall correctly. It makes sense university came up with more complex admission criteria to fix the hit at its PR image if Asian grads create a bad reputation.
no data, say hammer?
The data is only available to the judge in the pending lawsuit.
Disagree 100%. Why do you think these people are less qualified? How do you define qualified?
If you look at the recent lawsuit against Harvard. Provided all else mostly equal, Asians have to score 200 points higher to get the equal chance of admission.
@fahq, Well clearly you want a person’s race to be a qualifier and OP is leaning towards merit.