After FAANG companies, what are considered tier 2 or 3 companies?

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Mar 9, 2018 66 Comments

Where do companies such as Microsoft, Airbnb, Uber, Dropbox, etc sit within the hierarchy of tech companies?

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  • Yahoo LiamNam
    Mostly based on how much I’d want to be employed by them, not as much on business success:
    Tier 0: Be your own boss
    Tier 1: Google, Facebook, Netflix
    Tier 2: Apple, Airbnb, Lyft, Uber, Square, Slack, Dropbox, Reddit, Spotify, Nvidia
    Tier 3: Microsoft, Amazon, Yelp, LinkedIn, Pinterest, Twitter, Salesforce, Zillow, Snapchat
    Tier 4: Cisco, Oracle, Yahoo/Verizon, SAP, Intel, Adobe, IBM, Intuit, eBay, PayPal
    Mar 9, 2018 9
    • Facebook CywT56
      SF is definitely not Tier 3
      Mar 10, 2018
    • Yahoo LiamNam
      Why is SF Tier 2? Product might be decent, but prestige isn’t as high, comp isn’t as high. They are still good, but I dont think they have as much potential for growth/success/challenges as Tier 2.
      Mar 10, 2018
    • Deutsche Bank LPeJ52
      Love the Tier 0 placement
      Mar 10, 2018
    • Microsoft YaDingus
      Dude intuit in the same league as others? Aren’t they just an application/tax company? You can’t be serious!
      Mar 24, 2018
    • Uber knight
      I would move Netflix to tier2, Nvidia to tier3 and intuit to tier4, lol
      Mar 24, 2018
  • O'Reilly Media NidV30
    OP
    I’ll take a stab (tomatoes being thrown)

    Tier 1: FANG

    Tier 2: Uber, Airbnb, Dropbox, Microsoft, Adobe, Spotify

    Tier 3: LinkedIn, Twitter, Lyft, Snapchat, Yelp, Pinterest

    *edit - scroll to “Yahoo • LiamNam” for a better list.
    Mar 9, 2018 13
    • Intel MaxZzz
      I meant in terms of working there. I know a bunch of people who got offer letters from amazon after coding round online. I respect amazon in terms of what they’ve done in the online shopping arena and cloud computing, but I wouldn’t work there ever, and have turned down their job offer.
      Mar 10, 2018
    • Amazon Pivoteee
      Yup and amazon treats software engineers like commodities... everyone who is hired in the last 1-2 years got laid off
      Mar 10, 2018
    • Amazon ttamazon
      I am not sure about compensation part .. at least mine is not that great even with Amazon standard. Promotions are tough .. employees pampering does not exist in Amazon distionary .
      I believe most of the people working in Amazon are here for quality of work .. and not for work life balance ...
      If you want to try your luck on multiple quality work option .. switching from one problem space to another every 3 years .. Amazon will be good place to join .

      As for me .. I am not leaving Amazon for a long time .. I am happy with the work ..
      Mar 10, 2018
    • Lyft DenC84
      Adobe?? 😱Are u serious? and Where is slack ?
      Mar 24, 2018
  • Amazon CKpu11
    Everyone on this thread is a huge twat. You're not your company. Working for a FANG company won't make you a better person or make you happier or make your dick any longer.
    Mar 9, 2018 1
    • O'Reilly Media NidV30
      OP
      Uh, Can’t tell if trolling or serious...

      It’s a fun innocent question. If anything, it provides insight into how people can grow careers by incrementally gaining experience in the industry and not getting too discouraged if they don’t get into FANG.
      Mar 9, 2018
  • Microsoft HCF
    I would argue that based on the pay, the technologies, attrition level, and egerness to join the company, Microsoft is a tier 4 company.
    Mar 9, 2018 7
    • Microsoft HCF
      The CEO is single handedly destroying the company. From within. Like cancer. Since he started the attrition levels have spiked and morale is lower than ever.
      Mar 10, 2018
    • Microsoft YaDingus
      This dude is a salty asshole that left and keeps spreading FUD. Don’t listen to him
      Mar 24, 2018
    • Microsoft Mr. Monoid
      No he isn't. You may not agree with him but most people do. Satya is the worst thing that happened to MS. Most people I speak with agree that MS would have been better off with an external CEO.
      Mar 24, 2018
    • Microsoft YaDingus
      Lol you guys are high. I’ve been here for a while and while not the best, he’s certainly way better than that doofus ballmer
      Mar 24, 2018
    • Microsoft Mr. Monoid
      Ballmer was a bad CEO. But that is unrelated to the fact that Satya is even worse. There is no dissagreement about the fact that Ballmer had to leave.
      Mar 24, 2018
  • Facebook FJcG21
    Why is Netflix considered tier 1 anyway? Purely based on pay?
    Mar 9, 2018 4
    • O'Reilly Media NidV30
      OP
      Has to do w stock popularity and performance. I guess that makes it a desirable place to work?
      Mar 9, 2018
    • Amazon SomeName2
      They are interesting on Blind since they only seem to hire Senior Devs. Not that financial analysts care about that.
      Mar 9, 2018
    • Yahoo LiamNam
      High hiring bar, challenging product, high growth, best pay, very experienced teams.
      Mar 10, 2018
    • Amazon Pivoteee
      And very very high attrition... you either go up or you are dead
      Mar 10, 2018
  • Apple / Eng Dmotivatd
    What about the biggest company of the world : Apple ?
    Mar 9, 2018 14
    • Amazon SomeName2
      Genuine question. It was the first time I saw someone from O’Reilly on here so I thought would see what they are all about. But now that you mention it, really hard to determine snark or genuine on Blind. It’s a razor thin line. Is there a “for real” emoticon?
      Mar 9, 2018
    • O'Reilly Media NidV30
      OP
      Nah. I definitely got roasted. Someone get the medic.
      Mar 9, 2018
    • Amazon SomeName2
      I was being serious but now that I think about it more, I picture the job like O’Reilly peak in the 90s. You get a pager on your first day and sit down to your Gateway computer. They tell you that your job as media is to make these things called “CD ROMS”. When you ask if they’re going to go at the back of the books you’re told “you don’t need to know. That’s for Tim O’Reilly to know”. Then you head out to catch a new episode of Friends and prepare for Y2K.
      Mar 9, 2018
    • O'Reilly Media NidV30
      OP
      😂😂😂
      Mar 9, 2018
    • Google / Eng avgjoe
      Oh shit this is good. Do me do me... lol
      Mar 11, 2018
  • Microsoft HCF
    Microsoft loves when Googlers come a'knocking on its door. They attribute it to the company being hip again. It makes Satya sleep well at night, even if the ratio of people leaving to Google to those coming from Google is 10^9 : 1
    Mar 10, 2018 0
  • Apple / Eng Dmotivatd
    What about Tesla? Nobody is even mentioning of it.
    Mar 9, 2018 4
    • Intel
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      What about tesla, haha theyre not really competitive in autonomous driving much when compared with cruise, waymo, uber, sooo many other startups doing autonomous driving. Their main product is just electric cars, i wouldnt put them up on these lists either
      Mar 9, 2018
    • Apple / Eng Popeye1
      Yes agreed, they arent even investing much into autonomous driving. Their focus is on Electric cars and batteries and i am sure you would agree that they are way ahead of their competitors in that field. So its not fair to compare them for a field in which they are not even investing time.
      Mar 9, 2018
    • Amazon
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      I heard they don't pay too well.
      Mar 10, 2018
    • Intel
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      ^ that too. Tesla has never had positive revenue lol theyve been in the red for earnings since the beginning.
      Mar 10, 2018
  • Google / Eng avgjoe
    Have folks from FAANG tried to go work at say a tier 3 company to gain more management experience? Does your experience from a “tier 1” company give you leverage?
    Mar 9, 2018 4
    • Yahoo LiamNam
      I’ve heard of people doing that exactly. They go to work for them as senior tech lead and transition to management within a year. Usually at Microsoft it seemed.
      Mar 10, 2018
    • Amazon
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      Me here, got a bump in level and lead / manage people after leaving Amazon. Had to take a paycut first but eventually get to a higher pay.

      The plan is to boomerang between FANG and lower tier to level up faster, make money fast along the way.
      Mar 10, 2018
    • Google / Eng avgjoe
      You’re saying you got a bump up at amazon? From where did you come?
      Mar 10, 2018
    • Facebook CywT56
      This happens a lot in general, but I think it's generally more about going from a larger place to a smaller one than a shift in prestigue level
      Mar 10, 2018
  • Oracle / Eng oenxgegvqb
    Is apple a tier 1?
    Apr 6, 2018 0