LayoffsMar 14, 2019
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Ageism and layoffs

Paypal had layoffs recently and I heard that most people were in their 40s. Is this a common tread at other companies? Doesn't this constitute as discrimination? I understand that older employees usually get paid more but still somehow I don't think this is right especially if they have invested most of their career at the place. Are there any ways to combat ageism during layoffs? Thoughts? I mean we are all going to get old some day whether we like it or not...

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Facebook Probe Mar 14, 2019

Why do you think I use skin care products and adhere to a strict diet? Solely to make sure I look like I'm in my 30s into my 50s to combat ageism.

SpaceX uevh5 Mar 14, 2019

That's is great, but it works only during interviews. Once you start and HR has your date of birth all bets are off. In my last layoff they canned everybody over 40 (about 20 people) except two. The only reason I didn't sue them was that the old guys were about 25% of the affected employees. The list of who is affected and who's not was very interesting - They sorted about 100 people by discipline, age and level and laid of the most senior (by both age and level) in every discipline.

Okta doomsday Mar 14, 2019

Facebook: give me the names of those skincare products

Facebook public2 Mar 14, 2019

If over 40, discrimination. If under 40, not.

Microsoft 4655434b Mar 14, 2019

This applies to the avg age of the workgroup...

Facebook public2 Mar 14, 2019

Understood, pointing out only over 40 is protected

Oracle now@google Mar 14, 2019

I suppose it is a mix of people with more YOE/high TC and those who stuck around because they can’t get a job elsewhere.

Wipro JohnnyCa$h Mar 14, 2019

This is common in Bayarea, Visa and Cisco lays off 45+ old employees with 2 month severance

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🍔 🍟 Mar 14, 2019

Older employees are NOT usually paid more. Younger ones who job hop make more than old timers who are stuck in the same job.

Marvell k8h5vh Mar 14, 2019

Because they hop around and get bumps w every move or they put themselves in multiple offer situations.

Yelp overmind Mar 14, 2019

Job hoppers don't age?

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VSwf01 Mar 14, 2019

Did it matter what position they were in?

VMware BiggySmlz Mar 14, 2019

No, age related layoffs are protected so it doesn't matter. It is too easy to exploit young workers who fearing loss of income accept bad management demands. More experienced workers speak up, and while hard to distinguish between lazy and experienced you should err on the conservative analysis.

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EMVH32 Mar 14, 2019

It is common. And it is illegal. And it is a dumb way to manage a company.

Juniper bailee Mar 14, 2019

Ageism is rampant in the Bay Area. Yes it's discrimination yes everyone knows about yes it still happens anyway and companies DGAF

Amazon sinter Mar 14, 2019

I’m surprised employment law attorneys aren’t working the area aggressively for cases tbh

Google JLrC80 Mar 14, 2019

Tech industry is up or out. If you are old and not in a leadership position you are probably an overpaid average engineer.

LinkedIn Capt Marv Mar 14, 2019

Why do people whine about getting socialist protections for jobs that pay few times the median income ?

Amazon LoanerBadg Mar 14, 2019

The ignorance here is mind-boggling.

Amazon sinter Mar 14, 2019

Mind boggling is putting it lightly. How does homeboy even manage to dress himself in the morning?

Amazon пысTaker Mar 14, 2019

The employer’s reasons for layoffs cannot in any way relate to the worker’s gender, race, religion, disability or age. In some states, employers also cannot make layoff decisions based on sexual orientation or other characteristics. When making layoff decisions, it’s best to use criteria that are not related to any legally protected class

Amazon frmnt Mar 14, 2019

It can but it shouldn't

Intel 018’! Mar 14, 2019

Wow, you under 40 white/Asian males are fucked