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Algorithms and puzzles

Best Buy areyousure
May 6

Some companies are more worried about puzzles and algortithms. Most/all are available online. Some people mug them up and crack interviews. How can it be taken as a measure of capability for problem solving?

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  • WalmartLabs ferrari
    What is a better measure? A "four hour" take home programming assignment?
    May 610
    • Best Buy isit?
      I feel contract to hire helped hiring right candidates. It helps in assessing both technical and behavioral qualities.
      May 6
    • Lyft Spagaro
      Good candidates won't ever agree to that
      May 7
    • Northrop Grumman / EngKolmogorov
      Nothing worse than doing a phone screen and then getting a HW assignment. As much as I love technical stuff, I like to do it at work and focus on hobbies and family at home. So having to do one of these is just a fucking nightmare. Often I just end up getting half way through thinking that the whole process is bullshit and quitting. It's probably why I can't join any top tier companies but whatever.
      May 7
    • Postmates channeI
      It's not what you do at work but what you do outside of work that matters :)
      May 7
    • Amazon xHqf38
      Exactly. I feel like these homework assignments are disproportionately advantaged towards people without families. How the heck am I supposed to carve out the time to finish one of these things while taking care of a baby on the weekend.
      May 7
    • Amazon PhzB48
      Isn't the investment of time similar to an on-site interview? I.e. just take a half day off (or call in sick if you like) to do this "interview"
      May 7
    • Northrop Grumman / EngKolmogorov
      I guess that's an option. Part of the problem is my ego is probably unreasonably large and I take offense to these challeneges. These also tend to weight hiring based on skills learned in the past rather than potential. I can't know what I've never been given the chance to do, but I tend to be pretty good when I finally do get a shot. That being said, I'm sure there are candidates just as good as myself who already have the background so...oh well.
      May 7
    • Amazon PhzB48
      Help me understand how to pass for a skill that you don't have yet (potential) :)
      May 7
    • Northrop Grumman / EngKolmogorov
      So skills are things like languages. It could be that I'm just too slow in the language they're testing me in at that point in time. Potential is more difficult.to quantify but comes down to your ability to do analysis and be creative. It's a lot harder to learn that than it is to be proficient in a skill. Thus, the fallback to testable things like leetcode, and hw problems.

      You don't have to agree with me on this, it's jsut my opinion.
      May 7
    • Amazon xHqf38
      I hoard my vacation days because I'm always fearful of having to take a lot of sick leave.
      May 7
  • Amazon / EngCleaner
    They solved the problem of passing the interview barrier. Not easy.
    May 62
    • Best Buy isit?
      Thats the problem. I noticed many who can crack interviews are not good at work. Few hours of interview decicising years long of association.
      May 6
    • Amazon / EngCleaner
      At the same time, independently of the test, you’re always going to have the problem of the person not putting the same energy level in work as in the interview, whatever the contents of the interview are.

      After the interview, the company can always fire the people that don’t do their job properly.

      If you just onboard anyone without an interview, you’ll likely get an even worse result.
      May 7
  • IBM / Eng
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    This is the best way, period. The alternatives:
    a) trusting whatever is on a candidate's resume and only asking behavioral questions to determine culture fit (people lie on their resumes)
    b) take home assignments (waste of time)
    c) asking non-leetcode programming questions, which would probably be trivia questions (no one likes these because they're easy to look up on the job, so do not assess a candidate's skills correctly)

    As you can see, none of the alternatives are desirable. With FANG companies, they usually ask questions you most likely haven't seen before on LC, so algos questions _are_ good interview questions. And even if all questions are LC questions, why do you not like that? Practice LC for a couple weeks/months and you'll net yourself double maybe triple your TC. What's not to like? (And no, that's not "gaming the system", that's just practicing and strengthening your CS fundamentals).
    May 70
  • Amazon Akjsb
    At worst it takes dedication to Leetcode your ass off to get in somewhere you may not have otherwise and learn how to see solutions to complex problems. This shows for persistence. At best they got in with their natural ability to see solutions to complex problems.... They may still be lazy.
    May 61
    • Best Buy isit?
      Agree it shows their persistence. But i feel there is need for newer ways of hiring to get intelligent team players.
      May 6
  • New / EngDey
    What is TC?
    May 74
    • Arxan / Eng
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      It's another name for Blind
      May 7
    • New / EngDey
      😂
      May 7
    • Gusto Gusto
      Total compensation
      May 7
    • Tinder / Eng
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      meowimacatmore
      It's a dick length measuring contest
      May 7

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