Alright, I am at a point where money doesn’t excite me too much.
I earn fairly average (200k TC, 4yoe) with quite relaxed job ie 2-3 days wfh per week.
Have to write pretty simple python and java automation code.
I hardly have to work for 3-4 hours a day( and that keeps my manager happy).
On the other hand, I see my friends at other companies, grinding their a**s 9-7, sometimes even over the weekend, which only helps them earn just 20-30 percent more than me, which they don’t know how/where to spend.
Currently I am not following latest technology trends (AI/ML/AR/VR/KA). I may learn one of these in future, based on job trends and or my interest.
But currently I am enjoying spending more time with family, playing my favourite sports, traveling, getting in better shape, sleeping 😴
Am I getting too comfortable with my job? Or I just have a good work life balance?
Alright, I am at a point where money doesn’t excite me too much.
- The more companies I see from the inside, the less fear I have that recruiting engineers will become more efficient/meaningful anytime within the window of my working life.
Plus OP is already at Google early in his career making 200k, which carries enough cache on it's own. Outside a full blown drug addiction, quitting/apathy, or mental illness I see no way this person 'fails' any reasonable standard of career progression.
- Amazon ☀️ sunshineThis comment got 103 likes, but surprised, and why would he regret it in the future? 😁 Maybe it’s the opposite where he will be happier in the future as he gets to spend his time with the family, enjoys sports, and takes care of himself while earning good money. I don’t see a single reason to regret this in the future.
Most likely all people who liked this comment are the ones working their a$$ off 9-7 everyday
- New / EngEzcI23For some developers thats a dream, just have fun and enjoy
Life is more than just work
- Google mkseeMaximizing career is overrated. What's the meaning of squeezing out more TC. I'll take it if they give it, otherwise don't sweat it. Time to enjoy family, friends, and hobbies bring so much more meaning to life than some more TC for a slightly bigger house (a few extra rooms, bigger yard), nicer car (5 series vs 3 series) slightly nicer clothes (Armani vs JCrew).
It's the law of diminishing returns. Your TC is already high enough to enjoy a good life as far as $$ is concerned. Instead of investing more time to bend the needle further in career which translates into only modest net benefit, invest in low hanging fruit in other areas of your life that pay off with much more happiness.
- At 200K with 4 yoe and that kind of WLB, you’re not average. I repeat... you’re not average.
- This is accounting for income tax, yes. I said frugal-ish, which not everyone wants to be, and assumes you are single — the calculus changes once you have a family. I live in MTV and this is an unparalleled environment to save a ton of money in your 20s (well other than Seattle) *as long as you don’t let your lifestyle inflate* ...pick one small luxury or two but otherwise live like a typical entry level 20s person
- Then it’s the same as 100k in an average city for you! Not for everyone though :) And btw, a life hack I’ve found is that it’s absolutely possible to not spend too much but still have a happy life. I go on road trips and small vacations every month, a big vacation every year, and spend less than 45k/yr. It will have to increase when I have kids, but by then we will have saved a few million combined (partner is equally frugal)
- Adobe FuhahgahaSame here. I am just enjoying my life. Couple times a year I need to focus on my job, and still successful enough to get promoted. However I dont expect this will last longer than five years. Eventually this field will be saturated. Be prepared to withstand coming winter.
- Microsoft / Enghsw23+You're at Google with $200k TC. You're a failure. Even MSFT pays me more.
- I mean, if your 'deathbed' is in a home/hospice paid by medicare and your death lasts for a long time, you might wish you had worked harder and smarter to be able to afford better medical care.
Personally I grind leetcode so I can afford to die in my own home after decent-to-good doctors make a real effort to save my life. America!
- It reminded me of a blogpost from a google employee. Who was saying how he got comfortable, wasn’t stressing too much, and had a coworker they used to hang out with, who was working really hard. Years later, that coworker got really successful. His name was Sundar Pichai.
I think the main question is what are you looking for. What are your goals. IMO while you’re young and have the energy - focus on work and career. So when you’re older, you have higher TC and more room for relaxation and joy.
- What a beautiful story.
Unfortunately, it's called survivor bias. Most of the people working 10+hours will lose their time doing a meaningless job without ever getting any real reward for it compared to the guy that works 4 hours a day.
So sure, you can try to be the next CEO of Google, but most probably you will just be another loser working 12 hours a day and not getting anywhereMay 710
- New SuitsI think it’s high time we stop evaluating performance based on the number of hours worked . Maybe you’re just really good at what you do, so say someone who’s not as good might take much more than the 2-3 hours you take. Now the next part to your question, are you getting too comfortable, that can be true, but in order to address that you need to probably find something exciting to work on. Ask for new projects, lead a new initiative, help a colleague. If nothing of this interests you, invest in your health, volunteer at some organization! And above all stop worrying about the fact that you have nothing to worry about! 😉
- You’re living my dream!
My life changed for the better forever when I stopped buying into silly status competitions and putting my identity into the rat race. The true winner is the one who manages to trick a company into paying them a lot for -not- trying
- Amazon awssdmWhat a fucking loser. Are you in America or not? You should be giving your job 100% and stressing about it most days of the week
- Uber / EngydhskOp I was at Google 4 years ago and enjoyed the work/life balance and good TC like you. Hated my life style and decided to join Uber. Financially I did not come ahead. But as a human being I grew so much. So my advice is, join some a smaller company and grow yourself!
- Coming from “over achiever” with L5 after 4yeo: you’re fine. Do whatever you’re happy. Don’t follow the rat race. The only reason I did it is because I enjoy it. I can’t imagine a different life for myself.
You’re making a ton of money and save a lot of time. Good for you man. You’re obviously smart, so if somewhere down the road your priorities change, you’ll adapt.
- Depends on your ladder and level. If you're L3 (with $200k TC I'd imagine that's where you're at) you can't coast on that long term.
Happy to hear other folks' input to my comment
- Microsoft / DataihlD83Just because you are busy does not mean you are doing great. Leisure is the most under appreciated thing I feel some of us software engineers can afford. Don't change your job/position out of guilt. I am sure you have hustled enough in your life to reach this stage where you can just relax. Appreciate that and try for some change/more responsibility only if you really want so.
- Very nice 👍
First time I saw someone talking other than TC.
I used to think I am alone and started self doubting myself for prioritizing fun things
- Now try to become a.manager and get paid more and have an even comfortable life where you won't even need to work the 3 to 4 hours you do. Don't believe anyone who says it is more work or stressful. They just do it to project their relevance and keep the ponzy scheme going.
- Damn, was really hoping for a new buzzword I could drop in conversations to make others feel inadequate.
Regarding your OP, stay happy. If you're comfortable where you're at don't be afraid to stay there for a bit. Any new skills you're missing out on can be picked up fairly quickly should the need arise. See if you can find some pet projects to test the waters. Maybe see if you can build a ML crypto trading bot running in K8s that is profitable with fake trades if you get bored.
- Most people criticizing OP assume the path they've chosen now is somehow set in stone when in reality the always an opportunity to observe, orient, and decide to act differently should OP for example start noticing that their skills are less in demand. Not everyone needs to be driven to advance in a monotonically increasing function. I'll just say, don't let your brain atrophy.. keep yourself occupied with hobbies, travel, etc.
- Facebook / EnginstandidlEnjoy life. There is more to life than money and career.
You should always be developing some new skills for some job. There’s no guarantee that whatever you’re doing now will be worth anything in 5 or 10 or 20 years. You should be prepared to be competitive in that new market (which will look quite different after every economic cycle)
- Google / DatasushibabemoreIm in the same situation right now, and on top of that I was feeling an uncomfortable sense of getting surpassed by other, busier people, if you get what I mean. I had an existential crisis about “what am I doing with my life”. So I found some hobbies and started planning for an one year travel sabbatical (something to dream for!). I think I would rather take being comfortable in life than being busy, because at least you can stop and think about what you want to do, instead of killing yourself trying to survive.
- You should take a little time to learn new technologies and keep your skills current. Think of it as cheap insurance. Otherwise, if you're happy keep doing what you're doing. I took a similar path in my 20s and now I make $500k, so it didn't hurt me.
- DocuSign HMNO14You have the privilege to live a life with dignity and without worry and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.
I would encourage you to 1. Engage with current technology to ensure you can keep this good good balance you have going and 2. Think about what you can do to help others get to that good place too.
- Amazon фooSeriously what’s up with Google? I know it’s an awesome job and everyone wants to work there and certainly not saying I wouldn’t work there, but isn’t anyone worried about the future of the company? Seems like everyone goes there to coast and take her easy.
- The company prints Money out of the ads division and invests heavily in R&D that might not have immediate payoff. If we had reported a quarter with a decrease in profits since I joined I might be worried,but we continue to grow and continue to print money in an increasing way. And we continue to serve more and more users and create delightful user experiences. It's a good job, and leadership trys to make you feel connected with company outcomes (even if you are pretty remote like I am)
- Microsoft pichaindlI was in the same shoes when I was at Google. While my friends at less well known places worked their butts off and learned a tons of thing, I was comfortable enough and kept thinking life would always be that way. Not until I had a bad time with my manager (for non technical reasons) and had to leave. That’s when I realized doing easy work at a famous companies only made you a glorified coding monkey, but nothing more. The stack at Google is too unique (i.e has very little use outside of the company), and I was efficiently outdated when I came out to the real world. I went to a smaller company and learned much more there about full stack dev and building large systems. Currently I’m taking Deep Learning & Deep Reinforcement Learning to keep myself relevant. I hope you won’t be learning this hard lesson like I did.