Am I getting too comfortable?

Google / EngG00G13
May 7 245 Comments

Alright, I am at a point where money doesn’t excite me too much.
I earn fairly average (200k TC, 4yoe) with quite relaxed job ie 2-3 days wfh per week.
Have to write pretty simple python and java automation code.
I hardly have to work for 3-4 hours a day( and that keeps my manager happy).
On the other hand, I see my friends at other companies, grinding their a**s 9-7, sometimes even over the weekend, which only helps them earn just 20-30 percent more than me, which they don’t know how/where to spend.
Currently I am not following latest technology trends (AI/ML/AR/VR/KA). I may learn one of these in future, based on job trends and or my interest.
But currently I am enjoying spending more time with family, playing my favourite sports, traveling, getting in better shape, sleeping 😴
Am I getting too comfortable with my job? Or I just have a good work life balance?

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  • Amazon
    somecsdude

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    Microsoft
    somecsdudemore
    Lets hope that you don’t regret in the future
    May 711
    • Microsoft / EngbebK16
      He could get laid off or fired and have no marketable skills. Otherwise, if this is stable and something he can do decades, then yeah, enjoy.
      May 7
    • Nvidia yesm
      Lol..the only skill you need is the ability to leet code
      May 7
    • Amazon
      somecsdude

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      somecsdudemore
      Maybe OP can keep doing this for the rest of career and that’s good. Maybe the market value gets diminished in 10 years and OP earn less but is too late to start in a new area. Who knows, that’s why I said let’s hope.
      May 7
    • TuneIn iiipo
      I pretty much did this for the first 8 years of my career, don't regret having all that fun. Now I work harder, but because now work is also fun.
      May 7
    • Cruise Automation MNpz56
      Why would he regret it. If things go south, you pick up leetcode for 2 weeks and that's it.
      This industry is terrible at recruiting,time to take advantage of it
      May 7
    • Zillow Group ghFh57
      Maybe recruiting one day will improve and leetcoding would not be enough? 🤔
      May 7
    • Facebook zoom out
      Leetcode no enough? That’s unpossible!
      May 7
    • eBay eyxitsjtj
      I can see OP herding you all in the future.
      May 7
    • Metromile / EngFoHm60
      The more companies I see from the inside, the less fear I have that recruiting engineers will become more efficient/meaningful anytime within the window of my working life.

      Plus OP is already at Google early in his career making 200k, which carries enough cache on it's own. Outside a full blown drug addiction, quitting/apathy, or mental illness I see no way this person 'fails' any reasonable standard of career progression.
      May 8
    • This comment got 103 likes, but surprised, and why would he regret it in the future? 😁 Maybe it’s the opposite where he will be happier in the future as he gets to spend his time with the family, enjoys sports, and takes care of himself while earning good money. I don’t see a single reason to regret this in the future.

      Most likely all people who liked this comment are the ones working their a$$ off 9-7 everyday
      May 8
  • New / EngEzcI23
    For some developers thats a dream, just have fun and enjoy

    Life is more than just work
    May 75
    • New / MgmtMcAfee
      No one ever said, I wish I practiced 6 more hours of leets, that one Wednesday, instead of swimming with my kids at the pool—- on their deathbed.
      May 7
    • New fSca65
      It was kinda poetic
      May 7
    • Amazon god
      Shakespeare spotted
      May 7
    • Adobe / Eng
      abcdxyz123

      AdobeEng

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      Yahoo, PayPal
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      Software engineer architect manager big data platforms
      abcdxyz123more
      Most deathbed words or sentences don’t make sense.
      May 7
    • Cisco
      ()()

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      ()()more
      You will get the sense of those words once you reach deathbed @abcxyz123
      May 8
  • You're winning at life imo
    May 72
    • Microsoft / R&D
      kintaro

      MicrosoftR&D

      BIO
      Synbio = future, nothing less.
      kintaromore
      ... so rich, and green... waiting in, a hot tureen... :)
      May 7
    • Facebook MkNP73
      Ll
      May 7
  • Google mksee
    Maximizing career is overrated. What's the meaning of squeezing out more TC. I'll take it if they give it, otherwise don't sweat it. Time to enjoy family, friends, and hobbies bring so much more meaning to life than some more TC for a slightly bigger house (a few extra rooms, bigger yard), nicer car (5 series vs 3 series) slightly nicer clothes (Armani vs JCrew).

    It's the law of diminishing returns. Your TC is already high enough to enjoy a good life as far as $$ is concerned. Instead of investing more time to bend the needle further in career which translates into only modest net benefit, invest in low hanging fruit in other areas of your life that pay off with much more happiness.
    May 72
    • Facebook
      hdyubdrhr

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      hdyubdrhrmore
      So well said!
      May 7
    • Adobe / Eng
      abcdxyz123

      AdobeEng

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      Yahoo, PayPal
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      Software engineer architect manager big data platforms
      abcdxyz123more
      Well said. Just look at the tax rate of those incremental dollars you earn. That kinda tells you which dollars you should slog for and which you shouldn’t.
      May 7
  • New / Engdfg6#$
    Yes you are getting too comfortable and you may regret it in future.
    May 77
    • Yes. Your 20s is the time to be busting your ass off, making big bets, kicking ass and taking names.

      You will never get this time back.
      May 7
    • Facebook hwXy01
      “You will never get this time back therefore spend it lining the pockets of your employer”

      Enjoy your 20s. Go travel.
      May 7
    • The two aren’t mutually exclusive
      May 7
    • Oracle D Trump
      Yeah, go take a year or three off and discover yourself. You might find out you are meant to work for me who excelled in the meantime. 🤣🤣🤣
      May 7
    • Facebook Rez345
      Oracle excelled? 🤣🤣🤣
      May 7
    • Oracle D Trump
      Ask Larry. They are just me paying for my services right now.
      May 7
    • Facebook hwXy01
      Lol imagine killing yourself at work to end up at Oracle
      May 7
  • Microsoft / EngdKWp30
    At 200K with 4 yoe and that kind of WLB, you’re not average. I repeat... you’re not average.
    May 711
    • Microsoft / EngdKWp30
      A Googler isn’t average...
      May 7
    • Google / Eng
      चाचा चौधरी

      GoogleEng

      BIO
      चौधरीकोइँन H Y P E
      चाचा चौधरीmore
      You'd be surprised
      May 7
    • Google / ProductrustySpOOn
      Real easy to phone it in at Google most places
      May 7
    • Chase onlypjay
      That MTV 200 is like 100k in average US city, so relax
      May 7
    • Facebook blueriver
      Not really. If you’re frugal-ish on 200k in MTV you can literally save 70-100k a year, which is equal to or more than the 100k persons whole take home.
      May 7
    • SoFi / Engozwald
      Hey fb. Does income tax not exist in your mythical MTV world?
      May 8
    • Facebook blueriver
      This is accounting for income tax, yes. I said frugal-ish, which not everyone wants to be, and assumes you are single — the calculus changes once you have a family. I live in MTV and this is an unparalleled environment to save a ton of money in your 20s (well other than Seattle) *as long as you don’t let your lifestyle inflate* ...pick one small luxury or two but otherwise live like a typical entry level 20s person
      May 8
    • Chase onlypjay
      I have a family, and I have a life also, can't live a miserable life
      May 8
    • Facebook blueriver
      Then it’s the same as 100k in an average city for you! Not for everyone though :) And btw, a life hack I’ve found is that it’s absolutely possible to not spend too much but still have a happy life. I go on road trips and small vacations every month, a big vacation every year, and spend less than 45k/yr. It will have to increase when I have kids, but by then we will have saved a few million combined (partner is equally frugal)
      May 8
    • Cox Communications zoink99
      Facebook...jealous of you finding frugal mate! my man spends like money grows on trees and he's not ambitious or money motivated.....
      May 8
  • Adobe Fuhahgaha
    Same here. I am just enjoying my life. Couple times a year I need to focus on my job, and still successful enough to get promoted. However I dont expect this will last longer than five years. Eventually this field will be saturated. Be prepared to withstand coming winter.
    May 71
    • Intuit readyTo🔥
      Why 5 years specifically? Or is that number more of an estimate, and in your view, is it conservative or are we on the precipice of seismic changes in SWE TC?
      May 7
  • Microsoft / Enghsw23+
    You're at Google with $200k TC. You're a failure. Even MSFT pays me more.
    May 76
    • Facebook blueriver
      What’s your TC and how many hours a day do you work? OPs hourly rate may be higher, especially considering benefits too
      May 7
    • Facebook YBcl04
      Interesting to know that money defines failure or success
      May 7
    • Apple Dr.Dre
      Here is a perfect example of an A hole in Blind looking down people base on money they make.
      May 7
    • Nutanix saneep
      But he already said it that his colleagues earn a little more than what he's earning... And yet they burst their a***s.. That's the point of his post
      May 7
    • Cognizant / ITtagtag123
      Your whole life is waste to have this attitude and thought process
      May 7
    • Amazon seekk
      Disgusting entitled loser. That’s all.
      May 7
  • Google RPM
    Nobody on their deathbed ever wished they had worked harder.
    May 74
    • Amazon / Eng🦎 gecko
      I wouldn’t say nobody. People who severely underachieved based on potential might say that but I doubt someone who’s made it in this industry especially in google would say that.
      May 7
    • Metromile / EngFoHm60
      I mean, if your 'deathbed' is in a home/hospice paid by medicare and your death lasts for a long time, you might wish you had worked harder and smarter to be able to afford better medical care.

      Personally I grind leetcode so I can afford to die in my own home after decent-to-good doctors make a real effort to save my life. America!
      May 8
    • Google usurper
      You can afford to die in your own home right now if you want. I'd prefer spending my time enjoying life though
      May 8
    • SpaceX / Other
      muskytaint

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      muskytaintmore
      Sure, nobody wished they worked harder on someone else's dream, or at a souless corporation. But there are rewards in contributing to society more than just yourself and your family.
      May 8
  • Headspace sScq20
    It reminded me of a blogpost from a google employee. Who was saying how he got comfortable, wasn’t stressing too much, and had a coworker they used to hang out with, who was working really hard. Years later, that coworker got really successful. His name was Sundar Pichai.
    I think the main question is what are you looking for. What are your goals. IMO while you’re young and have the energy - focus on work and career. So when you’re older, you have higher TC and more room for relaxation and joy.
    May 75
    • Apple net worth
      Dude if your coworker is sundar then you can bet you would be in a great situation yourself. Having close relationship with ceo trumps any project you work on
      May 7
    • Headspace sScq20
      Maybe. I’m just saying that those that keep hustling, may gain really stellar results.
      May 7
    • Amazon hell-o
      What is the value of money if you are old, can't travel as much, can't eat as much, etc...
      May 7
    • Cruise Automation MNpz56
      What a beautiful story.
      Unfortunately, it's called survivor bias. Most of the people working 10+hours will lose their time doing a meaningless job without ever getting any real reward for it compared to the guy that works 4 hours a day.

      So sure, you can try to be the next CEO of Google, but most probably you will just be another loser working 12 hours a day and not getting anywhere
      May 7
    • Salesforce / EngForcesales
      You realize that most people do NOT want to be CEO of Google right?
      May 9
  • Cisco / Eng0xdeadbad
    Enjoy while it lasts. ❄️ is coming.
    May 71
    • New yyPg74
      Winter is coming for Cisco that’s for sure
      May 8
  • Amazon / Eng🦎 gecko
    Can I get a referral?
    May 70
  • Amazon Shelman
    You are not missing out. There is more to life than TC. Blind is obsessed with TC. Do not follow this trend.
    May 70
  • New Suits
    I think it’s high time we stop evaluating performance based on the number of hours worked . Maybe you’re just really good at what you do, so say someone who’s not as good might take much more than the 2-3 hours you take. Now the next part to your question, are you getting too comfortable, that can be true, but in order to address that you need to probably find something exciting to work on. Ask for new projects, lead a new initiative, help a colleague. If nothing of this interests you, invest in your health, volunteer at some organization! And above all stop worrying about the fact that you have nothing to worry about! 😉
    May 71
    • Google / EngG00G13
      OP
      This was enlightening :) thanks
      May 8
  • Facebook blueriver
    You’re living my dream!

    My life changed for the better forever when I stopped buying into silly status competitions and putting my identity into the rat race. The true winner is the one who manages to trick a company into paying them a lot for -not- trying
    May 71
    • Nutanix mod99
      Facebook has lot of peer to peer pressure I heard.
      May 7
  • Splunk Splunkery
    We are overpaid, enjoy it while you can and save
    May 70
  • Grab newusrnm
    As long as you have a purpose in life and you’re happy there’s nothing wrong with it. Congrats on working for Google :)
    May 70
  • Google zlrsmgfo
    You can always utilize your free time to learn something that excites you, or work on your own idea. May be pick up fun 20%. As long as you don't get stuck intellectually, it is fine to be comfortable.
    May 70
  • Amazon awssdm
    What a fucking loser. Are you in America or not? You should be giving your job 100% and stressing about it most days of the week
    May 73
    • SWC / Data
      spiked

      SWCData

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      Virtusa
      BIO
      Looking for new opportunities in data. Maybe move to North Carolina.
      spikedmore
      Lol
      May 8
    • Facebook ziggyziggy
      Haha, jealous much? Sounds like he’s living the American dream.
      May 12
    • SWC / Data
      spiked

      SWCData

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      Virtusa
      BIO
      Looking for new opportunities in data. Maybe move to North Carolina.
      spikedmore
      I think that's actually a bit tongue-in-cheek
      May 12
  • Uber / Engydhsk
    Op I was at Google 4 years ago and enjoyed the work/life balance and good TC like you. Hated my life style and decided to join Uber. Financially I did not come ahead. But as a human being I grew so much. So my advice is, join some a smaller company and grow yourself!
    May 72
    • Salesforce loompa
      The key is that you hated your lifestyle. OP does not.
      May 7
    • Rally Health PWcK47
      What's the difference between working at Uber vs Google?
      May 7
  • Google thefive
    Coming from “over achiever” with L5 after 4yeo: you’re fine. Do whatever you’re happy. Don’t follow the rat race. The only reason I did it is because I enjoy it. I can’t imagine a different life for myself.

    You’re making a ton of money and save a lot of time. Good for you man. You’re obviously smart, so if somewhere down the road your priorities change, you’ll adapt.
    May 70
  • Google zoorich
    Depends on your ladder and level. If you're L3 (with $200k TC I'd imagine that's where you're at) you can't coast on that long term.

    Happy to hear other folks' input to my comment
    May 76
    • Intuit readyTo🔥
      What makes coasting more possible at higher levels (possibly L4, L5, etc)?
      May 7
    • Google zoorich
      Given that L4/5 is the terminal level at Google, you're not really expected to grow beyond that (i.e. You can stay at that level indefinitely)
      May 7
    • Intuit readyTo🔥
      Do they make that explicitly known? Like your manager says: “welp you’re an L5 so you’ll never be moving up”
      May 7
    • Google zoorich
      "you'll never be moving up" is very different from "you're not expected to move up (unless you want to)" :)
      May 7
    • Facebook blueriver
      L4 is terminal now at Google. Honestly I consider going there, getting downleveled to 4 and then coasting forever
      May 7
    • New / Eng
      kVaj11

      NewEng

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      BIO
      not giving my @google here, but is Googler.
      kVaj11more
      Google will give you as much responsibility as it thinks you can handle and you ask for, more responsibility, higher level. Most people tap out at L4 or L5
      May 7
  • Amazon god
    You are following the right path. Many of us just want to save money for the future and relax later on. You are doing both at the same time. That’s awesome!!
    May 70
  • Pure Storage solidstate
    the fact that you’re self-evaluating means you get it.. enjoy it my friend, you’ve reached the transcendence it took the Beatles 9+ albums to get to..
    May 70
  • Microsoft / DataihlD83
    Just because you are busy does not mean you are doing great. Leisure is the most under appreciated thing I feel some of us software engineers can afford. Don't change your job/position out of guilt. I am sure you have hustled enough in your life to reach this stage where you can just relax. Appreciate that and try for some change/more responsibility only if you really want so.
    May 70
  • Rally Health PWcK47
    Very nice 👍
    First time I saw someone talking other than TC.
    I used to think I am alone and started self doubting myself for prioritizing fun things
    May 71
  • eBay abababbb
    Fuck no. I would take your job anytime
    May 70
  • Facebook ImranKhan
    Now try to become a.manager and get paid more and have an even comfortable life where you won't even need to work the 3 to 4 hours you do. Don't believe anyone who says it is more work or stressful. They just do it to project their relevance and keep the ponzy scheme going.
    May 75
    • Google thefive
      Suuuure. Sounds like an E3.
      May 7
    • Facebook ImranKhan
      Even more suuuuuuure. Sounds like a technically challenged ponzy scheme beneficiary
      May 8
    • Google thefive
      What’s your level?
      May 8
    • Facebook ImranKhan
      What is your name, address and social security number?
      May 8
    • SpaceX / Other
      muskytaint

      SpaceXOther

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      muskytaintmore
      This is a view juniors often have, but then when you actually get into management you realize it is actually super hard. Until you learn how to delegate your management work as "leadership opportunities" and it turns out your junior self was right all along
      May 8
  • T-Mobile EKVe82
    What's KA?
    May 75
    • Google / EngG00G13
      OP
      Lol don’t know. added just to see how many will be curios 😀. Seems like you the only one
      May 7
    • T-Mobile EKVe82
      Damn, was really hoping for a new buzzword I could drop in conversations to make others feel inadequate.

      Regarding your OP, stay happy. If you're comfortable where you're at don't be afraid to stay there for a bit. Any new skills you're missing out on can be picked up fairly quickly should the need arise. See if you can find some pet projects to test the waters. Maybe see if you can build a ML crypto trading bot running in K8s that is profitable with fake trades if you get bored.
      May 7
    • Autodesk / EngVhfhvdhdhs
      i thought it means kaggle
      May 7
    • Amazon amazoning
      I thought it was kafka
      May 8
    • Google usurper
      Killing Automatons. Like Project Maven and Skynet and stuff
      May 8
  • Google RPM
    Most people criticizing OP assume the path they've chosen now is somehow set in stone when in reality the always an opportunity to observe, orient, and decide to act differently should OP for example start noticing that their skills are less in demand. Not everyone needs to be driven to advance in a monotonically increasing function. I'll just say, don't let your brain atrophy.. keep yourself occupied with hobbies, travel, etc.
    May 70
  • Facebook / Enginstandidl
    Enjoy life. There is more to life than money and career.

    You should always be developing some new skills for some job. There’s no guarantee that whatever you’re doing now will be worth anything in 5 or 10 or 20 years. You should be prepared to be competitive in that new market (which will look quite different after every economic cycle)
    May 70
  • New kvzR50
    Don’t get too comfortable, if that job disappears....
    May 73
    • Facebook blueriver
      They can go work at Microsoft and coast even harder
      May 7
    • Microsoft maLk71
      Not true. Depends on which team you are in.
      May 7
    • Microsoft moneyValue
      I dont know of any team at Msft where you can coast AND feel safe. Do you?
      May 7
  • Google / Data
    sushibabe

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    sushibabemore
    Im in the same situation right now, and on top of that I was feeling an uncomfortable sense of getting surpassed by other, busier people, if you get what I mean. I had an existential crisis about “what am I doing with my life”. So I found some hobbies and started planning for an one year travel sabbatical (something to dream for!). I think I would rather take being comfortable in life than being busy, because at least you can stop and think about what you want to do, instead of killing yourself trying to survive.
    May 70
  • Microsoft gfba68
    You should take a little time to learn new technologies and keep your skills current. Think of it as cheap insurance. Otherwise, if you're happy keep doing what you're doing. I took a similar path in my 20s and now I make $500k, so it didn't hurt me.
    May 74
    • Microsoft / EngdKWp30
      Are you a 67? A fairly small percentage of engineers make 500+ at MS.
      May 7
    • Microsoft gfba68
      yep
      May 7
    • New / Eng
      choc

      NewEng

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      chocmore
      What's a 67?
      May 7
    • Microsoft / EngdKWp30
      Highest level in the principal band. Usually a M2/group manager managing other managers. Sometimes an architect in the dev discipline.
      May 7
  • New / Mktg
    hrWD33

    NewMktg

    PRE
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    hrWD33more
    Your pay relative to the hours you work (3-4/day) is more like 400k. You need to leverage the free time to do something else
    May 70
  • OceanX Offermore
    Wow OP, I envy you.
    Do make good investments and also try to create some sources of passive income stream since you have a lot of free time.
    May 70
  • Splunk Splunkery
    Money when saved equals freedom.
    May 70
  • DocuSign HMNO14
    You have the privilege to live a life with dignity and without worry and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

    I would encourage you to 1. Engage with current technology to ensure you can keep this good good balance you have going and 2. Think about what you can do to help others get to that good place too.
    May 70
  • Google VDNO84
    Now is the time to have kids.
    May 70
  • Amazon фoo
    Seriously what’s up with Google? I know it’s an awesome job and everyone wants to work there and certainly not saying I wouldn’t work there, but isn’t anyone worried about the future of the company? Seems like everyone goes there to coast and take her easy.
    May 74
    • Facebook blueriver
      I mean, they continue to print money lol
      May 7
    • New / Eng
      kVaj11

      NewEng

      PRE
      Google
      BIO
      not giving my @google here, but is Googler.
      kVaj11more
      The company prints Money out of the ads division and invests heavily in R&D that might not have immediate payoff. If we had reported a quarter with a decrease in profits since I joined I might be worried,but we continue to grow and continue to print money in an increasing way. And we continue to serve more and more users and create delightful user experiences. It's a good job, and leadership trys to make you feel connected with company outcomes (even if you are pretty remote like I am)
      May 7
    • Google / Engyogi bear
      Trust me bro there are teams in Google busy af, like mine...
      May 8
    • LinkedIn bleepblop
      Why do you feel it is an "awesome" job? (Ex Goog here). People want to work there the same reason one wants to screw a super model. Probably no different from most others, incredibly hard to score one plainly due to snobbishness but huge bragging rights :)
      May 9
  • Microsoft pichaindl
    I was in the same shoes when I was at Google. While my friends at less well known places worked their butts off and learned a tons of thing, I was comfortable enough and kept thinking life would always be that way. Not until I had a bad time with my manager (for non technical reasons) and had to leave. That’s when I realized doing easy work at a famous companies only made you a glorified coding monkey, but nothing more. The stack at Google is too unique (i.e has very little use outside of the company), and I was efficiently outdated when I came out to the real world. I went to a smaller company and learned much more there about full stack dev and building large systems. Currently I’m taking Deep Learning & Deep Reinforcement Learning to keep myself relevant. I hope you won’t be learning this hard lesson like I did.
    May 80
  • Microsoft dTJQ43
    You are a c-suiter in the making. Don't listen to all these worker drones
    May 70
  • Illumina tech lead
    FIRE bro. Enjoy the ride.
    May 70
  • Disney tralala
    Nice! What team/org?
    May 71
    • Expedia anony🐭
      Yes, and give me your name. DOB and social security are optional, but a plus.
      May 7
  • HBO QgWN71
    Whoa whoa whoa....so....you’re working part time and wfh 2-3 days per week for $200k and only 4 yoe? When you plan on leaving, can you refer me for your position!?
    May 70
  • Facebook oBti85
    Same life before joining Facebook...I miss my life.
    May 70
  • AT&T gDry23
    Holy crap... This is a slap in my face. Too comfortable? Haha. I have to re evaluate my entire existence on this earth.
    May 70
  • Microsoft / R&D
    kintaro

    MicrosoftR&D

    BIO
    Synbio = future, nothing less.
    kintaromore
    One day you will be dirt. So will your TC. Can't take it with you. Kids can probably squander it. So what do you build? Your kids, so they don't squander anything left by you, or what you leave behind, with no guarantees around it at all?
    May 70
  • You are living the life. Sounds about everyone at SAP.
    May 70
  • New / MgmtMcAfee
    Well, definitely learn the trends and stay in the know. Other than that, good job! Enjoy family and relaxing!
    May 70

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