Amazon -> Google

Amazon KENd18
Feb 23, 2018 23 Comments

Reasonable to go from:
Amazon L6 400 TC -> Google T5 400 TC?

Seattle / Kirkland

Ignoring initial cash; focused on long term, steady state

Or is the band for T5 too low?

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  • Google timeless
    I moved L6 to T4 (albeit I was a recently promo'd L6). My impression is the Amazon leadership bar for L6 is above that for T5 but the T5 tech bar is higher. A strong Amazon L6 should have to tools to get to T6 at Google.
    Feb 23, 2018 3
    • Amazon Bambooz
      Just curious, why did you move from Amazon L6 to Google T4? If you didn't get a T5 offer, why not wait a year and try again instead of getting down leveled?
      Feb 24, 2018
    • Google timeless
      It was a project I really was excited about and imo it will provide me with more valuable experience in the long run.
      Feb 24, 2018
    • Microsoft Lodu
      OP, did your conversation with the recruiter involve a potential T5 loop? Just wondering if they have you interview first and then decide the level or does that happen before?
      Feb 25, 2018
  • Amazon
    HfgiX8

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    HfgiX8more
    Too low in my humble view but perhaps you poorly performed in your interviews. T7 is a group manager, so you are 2 levels away at Google. Given 5-7 years for each level of a stellar performance, you would be 10-14 years from becoming a leader.
    Feb 23, 2018 3
  • Amazon tNJN12
    L6 must be sde ridding the stock up.
    Feb 23, 2018 1
    • Amazon KENd18
      OP
      I think calculating based on current stock price, it would be > 400 (valued when at 1k price I think) but not focused on that; just TC not based on “riding” any kind of stock increase (unreasonable to expect that will last forever)
      Feb 23, 2018
  • Microsoft Senorita*
    Go
    Feb 23, 2018 0
  • AppDynamics / Eng
    swhire

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    swhiremore
    Is Amazon L6 same as SDE 3 ? 400K seems too high, is this because of the recent appreciation of AMZN stock which inflated your TC ?
    Feb 27, 2018 1
    • Amazon KENd18
      OP
      Yeah L6 is a SD3. 400k is the TCT “total comp target”, but no not TC which I’ve noticed people consider stock price inflation as part of this “TC”.
      Mar 6, 2018
  • Google larry$
    400 is the top end of L5 imo. If you hit SE in 3 cycles (1.5 yrs), you should be able to maintain it.
    Feb 24, 2018 1
    • Google larry$
      Careerwise L6 is much easier than principal. And you would hit 500 much faster than at Amazon
      Feb 24, 2018
  • Google suhshebejk
    T5 annual TC won’t sustain 400k disregarding stock appreciation unless one gets the top rating. But top rating means performing at T6 or above.
    Feb 23, 2018 1
    • Amazon KENd18
      OP
      This is what I was looking for... I had assumed this based on the data I’ve seen. Thank you for the insight.
      Feb 23, 2018
  • How much exp is L6/T5?
    Feb 23, 2018 1
    • Amazon KENd18
      OP
      13
      Feb 23, 2018
  • Google Rffujht
    Anyone going from google to amazon?
    Mar 6, 2018 0
  • Google FwVk30
    What's your role?
    Feb 23, 2018 0
  • Amazon
    HfgiX8

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    HfgiX8more
    Ah, the same website, https://www.levels.fyi that till recently had L9 level at Amazon (btw, L9 doesn’t exist) and incorrect comp data?

    If you feel that you r still junior, do it. But deep down you feel that T5 is too low, why posting here otherwise ;)
    Feb 23, 2018 0
  • Microsoft Apxv53
    Consider WLB, go
    Feb 23, 2018 0

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