Amazon / LinkedIn offer or stay at Google

Google jobchange
Dec 21, 2018 33 Comments

Been at Google for 2 years, recently promoted to L4 with TC around 240k. Total exp: 3+ years

Got an offer from LinkedIn and Amazon. Amazon is somehow really interested and gave a really really high offer, they are saying high L5 and promo should be fast.

Both offers in bay area:

Amazon - 170k base, 150k stocks over 4 years, 150k sign-on over 2 years.

LinkedIn - 160k base, 250k stocks over 4 years, 10% yearly bonus, 50k sign-on.

Will my salary at Amazon remain same since there are no refreshers till 4 years and base is high apart from any stock appreciation?

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  • Google FcSg75
    It won't. Not unless you get promoted. If you join Amazon, assume you will be leaving in 2 years.
    Dec 21, 2018 0
  • Credit Karma Fb_ftw
    You make 240k at Google, and from what I can tell, Amazon offered you 255k? I’m summing the sign on and equity and vesting over 4 years to get that calculation.

    The LinkedIn offer comes in around 250k as well.

    Google >>> LinkedIn > amazon. Stay at Google.
    Dec 21, 2018 2
    • Google jobchange
      OP
      Yeah comp is not the major factor. Obviously current TC doesn’t have any sign-on. I just want to explore something else. Maybe I will look for switching teams internally.
      Dec 21, 2018
    • Credit Karma Fb_ftw
      Look at Uber/Lyft/Airbnb/Stripe. LinkedIn and amazon are big steps down for same comp.
      Dec 21, 2018
  • Facebook ayeyo
    Yea.... Amazon promotion rates are haphazard at best. If they are telling you promotion should be fast then try to negotiate for L6 now.
    Dec 21, 2018 5
    • Amazon Jеff Bezоs
      Yeah. Good luck with getting L6 with 3 YoE. OP might as well try to negotiate for Principal while he’s at it.
      Dec 21, 2018
    • Google jobchange
      OP
      Yeah that’s why they can’t consider me for L6 even though recruiter slated me for it. YOE is less, by fast promo I meant within 1-1.5 years. The compensation is definitely not typical L5.
      Dec 21, 2018
    • Google / Eng
      GCoin

      Google Eng

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      GCoinmore
      So with total 4 yoe you’ll be an L6 at Amazon? How diluted are the levels there?
      Dec 21, 2018
    • Google jobchange
      OP
      I didn’t believe it as well. They slated me for L6 for some reason maybe because one of my work area is what Amazon is looking for.
      Dec 21, 2018
    • Amazon Jеff Bezоs
      The Amazon comp is typical for external L5 hires. External L6 would be around $320k
      Dec 21, 2018
  • LinkedIn Ann Johans
    LI is way to go, no brainer. Great food, great vacations, rest every workday!
    Dec 21, 2018 0
  • Google SWE5
    Sounds like you'll make more at Google.

    That Amazon equity package is a joke. I just got 150k as my *annual* refresher at L5. Equivalent package over 4 years would be 600k.
    Dec 21, 2018 5
    • Credit Karma Fb_ftw
      Not to quibble, but there is a big difference between 150k refresher each year and a 600k rsu grant at time 0.

      150k refresher is legit though, congrats.
      Dec 21, 2018
    • Google jobchange
      OP
      They vest over 4 years right? Or are you saying you got 600k refreshers? I know with overlapping it will be higher.
      Dec 21, 2018
    • Credit Karma Fb_ftw
      His 150k refresher vests over 4 years.
      Dec 21, 2018
    • Twitter 🐒。
      No, he gets $150k a year in rsus
      Dec 21, 2018
    • Credit Karma Fb_ftw
      Gets 150k a year in rsu, each of which vest over four years.
      Dec 21, 2018
  • Google FcSg75
    Google has regular refreshers at all levels. Amazon, when I was there, didn't.

    So take that into account before you go to Amazon. Ask recruiter to tell you expected annual refresher. And what percentage of people get it.
    Dec 21, 2018 2
    • Google jobchange
      OP
      No refreshers at Amazon without promo. That’s what I am relying on. L5 at Google seems like really far fetched.
      Dec 21, 2018
    • Google FcSg75
      Promo in Amazon may be as bad. So be careful
      Dec 21, 2018
  • LinkedIn 123$
    Stay away from Amazon
    Jan 13 0
  • LinkedIn youNme
    Your comps are not that much different. Instead, you should think about potential to grow your RSU value while they are not vested. You are getting 150k of RSU at Amazon, while LinkedIn gives you 250k. Assuming both grow equally, which is going to be worth in 4 years? Note that Amazon and Google dropped in value 30% to 40% from their recent highs. MSFT dropped 10%.
    Dec 22, 2018 0
  • Facebook / Eng poopybutt
    How's Amazon's offer really really high? It's pretty average. I got more than that few months ago but didn't switch.
    Dec 21, 2018 2
    • Google jobchange
      OP
      For same YOE?
      Dec 21, 2018
    • Facebook / Eng poopybutt
      A little less than yours.
      Dec 21, 2018
  • Tableau Zero Cool
    You say Amazon gave a really high offer, but it's kind of the same as your current TC....
    And anything they say about promotion rate is just bs to make you join. It has absolutely zero truth
    Dec 21, 2018 2
    • Google jobchange
      OP
      From Amazon standards this is really high. Amazon doesn’t pay as good as FLG.
      Dec 21, 2018
    • Tableau Zero Cool
      Might be high, but I wouldn't say it's anything too far out from the norm. And it's not a good deal for you
      Dec 21, 2018
  • Walmart.com / Eng
    233333

    Walmart.com Eng

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    233333more
    Feel like Amazon’s stock is a little low (base is very high for L5 though)…and LinkedIn offers SWE (very high SWE comp though) rather than senior SWE. If I were you and really hate my Google job, i would choose to go, otherwise I would probably stay for 1/2 more year(s) and get much higher comp later on.
    Dec 21, 2018 2
    • Google jobchange
      OP
      Amazon compensates the stock with sign-on bonus. See it like you can count 100k of extra sign-on towards stock.
      Dec 21, 2018
    • LinkedIn Vogy87
      LI offer should be senior. If senior, rsus can go up to $300k. Base can go up as well but don't know the limit.
      Dec 21, 2018
  • New rocky0
    Promo should be fast is a lie
    Oct 26 0
  • LinkedIn youNme
    With comp being so close, consider what you like to do with you career, what you like to work on, who you will be working with, and work life balance. Comps and promotions come when you do good work that brings value, and you do good work that brings value when you are happy and excited at work. Explore other metrics other than comp and promises of promotion.
    Dec 22, 2018 0

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