Amazon Irvine vs Seattle office

TuneIn Pshush
Feb 17 30 Comments

Currently in the SFBA.
Have an offer getting ready from Amazon and have to pick location.
What would you choose and why?
Family of four
Current TC ~280

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  • Amazon / Eng tylium
    I work at the Irvine office. Culture is a lot better. Wlb is better. There are less projects to choose from and its hard to exceed level 6. Family of 4, irvine is as good as it gets (unless you are bothered by huge asian and Indian population)
    Feb 17 3
    • Apple pommedete
      Is Irvine’s cost of living similar to the Bay?
      Feb 17
    • Amazon / Eng tylium
      Cheaper. A 4 bedroom home is like 1mill. Can live outside of irvine for cheaper.
      Feb 17
    • Amazon owvsuwnej
      Agree w/Tylium. Irvine office has very good culture.
      Feb 17
  • Amazon owvsuwnej
    Irvine
    Feb 17 0
  • Apple pommedete
    If you and your family have been living in SFBA, then Irvine is more similar. It is warm and cozy.
    Opportunity wise I don’t think you get less in Irvine than in Seattle. Both are less than SFBA, anyways. You will still get tons of LinkedIn messages wherever you are. But of course, having to move again can be annoying. You may not need to move again if you are in Seattle. But moving back to the Bay from Irvine won’t be bad either.
    Did you ask your wife and kids? What are their preferences? Is the pay the same?
    Feb 17 4
    • TuneIn Pshush
      OP
      Thank you. Make sense.
      I don’t have numbers yet, but recruiter say it’ll be similar as both areas having same COL only WA state doesn’t have a state income tax, so I think net will be less in Irvine, not sure.
      Kids are too little to have their opinions on the location. They only need mom and dad by their side for now.
      We’ve been struggling to choose. On one hand ( as people say) socal warm and cozy and stuff, on the other hand it’s still California with all its problems. WA weather is not we get use to, so not sure how it will affect us. More opportunities in Seattle too. Idk.
      Feb 17
    • Amazon owvsuwnej
      What CA problems specifically?
      Feb 17
    • TuneIn Pshush
      OP
      High taxes, overcrowded, prices, dumb politics at times just to name a few. Maybe also true for WA - don’t know
      Feb 17
    • Microsoft
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      Other than income tax (other fees and taxes are high to make up for it, like car fees) you’re likely to find all of those true for Seattle as well. Or at least just as true as in Irvine
      Feb 17
  • Google / Product
    Urs

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    Seattle. If you want to be in a city with great tech career options.
    Irvine. Lifestyle and non-tech options.
    Feb 17 2
    • TuneIn Pshush
      OP
      What you mean by lifestyle. You still need to go for work no matter where are you. Lifestyle seems the same in both places work-home-kids-weekends
      Only weather can affect how I spend weekends. My opinion
      Feb 17
    • Google / Product
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      I mean in terms of competitive intensity SF>SEA>Irvine. People are more laid back and the pressure to earn 6-7 figures is way higher in the Bay and (now in) Seattle than in Irvine. I imagine you could still be laid back in Bay Area, but then usually your progression suffers.
      Feb 17
  • Apple xUEdsjT
    I grew up in Irvine, currently in SFBA and will be moving to Seattle area soon.
    Irvine is very warm and close to beaches, large asian/Indian/middle east population. Rent is okay (comparable to Seattle).

    Seattle is a much bigger city while Irvine is more residential and better for relaxing/retirement. Oh and rain.

    I’d choose Irvine but depends on if you prefer city life.
    Feb 17 2
    • TuneIn Pshush
      OP
      Thank you. If work in Irvine is it better for a family to live in Irvine proper? Or nearby areas/cities are better/worse. How bad commute situation in OC?
      Feb 17
    • Apple xUEdsjT
      The Amazon office is in middle of Irvine, so any outside city you’re looking at 20-40 minute commute. Traffic is bad at peak times (8-9, 4-6) but planning around those helps.
      Feb 17
  • Microsoft
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    Depends on whether not being at HQ and the associated lack of opportunities/visibility is worth the year round nice weather

    Also non-suburban Seattle is not the best for families. If you want good schools you’ll either pay for private school or have a long (~45 mins) commute
    Feb 17 2
    • Snapchat aFcf78
      You don’t need to have a 45 minute commute for good public schools. The schools around Magnolia and Ballard are quite good.
      Feb 17
    • TuneIn Pshush
      OP
      This is my concern too. I don’t see Seattle as a good place for families with kids. And commute from east side is pretty heavy as I know
      Feb 17
  • Microsoft wgcQ16
    What’s a Irvine?
    Feb 17 1
    • TuneIn Pshush
      OP
      City in California. Does it answer your question?
      Feb 17
  • Amazon Ohaafgb
    Seattle
    Feb 17 0
  • Amazon Mary2018
    Seattle. Commiefornia sucks. More tax.
    Feb 17 2
    • TuneIn Pshush
      OP
      Haha I hear you. Though per some rumors Washington is turning to Commiengton these days. But my question is not about that
      Feb 17
    • Cornerstone sCoz12
      Lol Irvine is very conservative and votes (R)
      Feb 17
  • Twitch RbOv54
    Irvine is an artificial city designed for family life. It's known for having great schools, being one of the safest cities in America, pretty boring with not much to do, etc. Etc.

    There's no real industries there other than disneyland and maybe blizzard.

    Seattle is rain city but has a lot more career opportunities. Also note that Seattle in Washington meaning very low state income tax
    Feb 17 2
    • Amazon owvsuwnej
      Irvine has ton of businesses - it is a regional job center. Several companies are headquartered there. In terms of things to do there is a ton around Irvine - beaches, amusements parks, mountains. LA and San Diego are close.
      Feb 17
    • Amazon / Eng tylium
      Google is here also, but small office.
      Feb 17
  • TuneIn Pshush
    OP
    LOL. What about second part of the question aka Why?
    Feb 17 1
    • Amazon owvsuwnej
      Irvine: affordability (vs sfba), commute, schools, beaches, housing stock, quality of life.
      Feb 17

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