Amazon L5 Offer

Dell / Eng y5qwmv
Oct 10 33 Comments

YOE - 7yrs (C/C++ Developer)

I need suggestion regarding offers:

Offer #1
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Amazon L5 (Seattle)
Team: EC2
Base: 156k
Bonus: 70k first year, then 50k second year
Stock: 86 shares (~150K for 4 years)
Relocation: Expense for relocating furniture and 1 month

Offer #2
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Mid Size Startup (Bay Area)
Team: Data Path
Base: 150k
Bonus: 15~20K (per year)
Stock: 50000 units (projected to be evaluated $4/unit by next year end)
Relocation: N.A.

Little bit about me:
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Me and my wife live in bay area (no kids). Wife (also a software engineer) is very supportive. I just purchased a house, and now I am confused what to pick, any suggestions?

Pros & Cons
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Bay Area:
- Better Climate
- More Opportunity
- House
- Wife won't have to look for job
- If startup goes IPO, willmake a lot of money
- Won't have to sell/put my house on rent

Seattle:
- Better compensation
- Potentially better work
- Cheaper real-estate
- Bigger Brand
- Less

Excuse me, the pole was supposed to be between Amazon(seattle) & Mid-size Startup(Bay Area)

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TOP 33 Comments
  • LinkedIn Uranus⛢
    No you won’t make a lot of money even if your startup IPO. You’ll only realize the paper value of those RSU.
    Oct 10 3
    • Dell / Eng y5qwmv
      OP
      Last evaluation of the startup was done in 2014. They have steady clients with a good product. As What I am hearing, they are planning to go public by next year end.
      Oct 10
    • LinkedIn Uranus⛢
      Yeah they are always going public next year.

      If they do go public you’ll be lucky to realize the full paper value of your RSU grant next year.
      Oct 10
    • Dell / Eng y5qwmv
      OP
      I agree, it's a gamble
      Oct 10
  • Amazon kenyat
    Go for Amazon and get your wife into a better paid role in Seattle as well. Change is good. I opted for Amazon for 2 years and moved back to Bay area later on. It worked wonders from stock and comp perspective
    Oct 10 0
  • Netflix FckTheWrld
    Take Amazon and negotiate for a role in bay area with higher pay.

    Win, Win!
    Oct 10 1
    • Dell / Eng y5qwmv
      OP
      That's a dream, will try to negotiate that.
      Oct 10
  • Amazon real_bezos
    Take Amazon. Negotiate Amazon.

    Ask for 160k Base, 90k sign on first year, 60k sign on second year, 125 RSUs.
    Oct 10 0
  • New / Eng hackslash
    Poll may help
    Oct 10 0
  • Oracle
    not_larry

    Oracle

    PRE
    Amazon
    not_larrymore
    Wife’s TC?
    Are you on a visa?
    Oct 10 3
    • Dell / Eng y5qwmv
      OP
      Yes, I am on visa. Wife's TC is 150k (legacy company highly underpaid)
      Oct 10
    • Oracle
      not_larry

      Oracle

      PRE
      Amazon
      not_larrymore
      Ok. Make this a poll. But don’t move until your finds a job too. If she can’t find anything quickly choose startup.
      Oct 10
    • Dell / Eng y5qwmv
      OP
      We are okay me going ahead first and starting @Amazon. Wife is quite talented, I am confident she can land a job.
      Oct 10
  • Citrix Systems / Eng ಅವನೌನ ಹಡಾ
    Yoe ? And move to Seattle for a year and move back
    Oct 10 3
    • Dell / Eng y5qwmv
      OP
      7 Years. I would make the same amount in the Bay area offer if I come back in an year.
      Oct 10
    • Citrix Systems / Eng ಅವನೌನ ಹಡಾ
      No I meant change companies. Take all the joining bonus and swich
      Oct 10
    • Amazon
      pejebxu

      Amazon

      PRE
      Amazon
      pejebxumore
      Yedokko ninoun !!
      Oct 14
  • Wayfair / Eng tAcq10
    Amazon's offer is the no brainer. Unless you hate money, I guess.
    Oct 10 2
    • Dell / Eng y5qwmv
      OP
      I am considering all the aspects - wife's job, house, future. After all I have an offer that seems quite good in the bay area.
      Oct 10
    • Wayfair / Eng tAcq10
      I don't have a horse in this race but I don't see any aspect of your offer in the Bay that beats your offer in Seattle.
      Oct 10
  • Apple mega_
    Keep interviewing, you can do far better
    Oct 10 1
    • Dell / Eng y5qwmv
      OP
      Thanks a lot for the encouragement, yes will do :-)
      Oct 10
  • Yelp ns7h90
    I am curious, if you have a house in the Bay and your wife also works in the Bay and there's plenty of opportunities in the Bay why did you even consider Seattle in the first place?
    Oct 10 1
    • Dell / Eng y5qwmv
      OP
      For the same exact reason. When I applied, I didn't know how well is the market in bay area after mass layoffs.

      I was not sure what I can get in bay vs seattle. We can still think about moving if we get a good TC, but my bay area offer is not bad either, I think.
      Oct 10
  • NetApp goOntap
    Amazon grew a lot in last 2 years, stock almost doubled. I don’t see it happening now. Go if you like EC2 and can handle the weather
    Oct 10 1
    • Dell / Eng y5qwmv
      OP
      Agreed, RSUs for 4 years far fetched.
      Oct 10
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    • Dell / Eng y5qwmv
      OP
      Yes
      Oct 10
  • NetApp goOntap
    Yoe?
    Oct 10 1
    • Dell / Eng y5qwmv
      OP
      7 years
      Oct 10
  • Discover Financial Services qwerty-/:
    YOE?
    Oct 10 1
    • Dell / Eng y5qwmv
      OP
      7 Years
      Oct 10
  • Amazon / Eng 4242424242
    RSU could be way more for Amazon
    Oct 12 0
  • Amazon yacht 🛥
    Which team on EC2?
    Oct 10 0

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