Amazon L5 vs Google L3 [Bangalore, India]

Amazon / Eng Somebdy
Oct 5 37 Comments

I work as an SDE 2 in Amazon India, happy with my role here. I had plans to relocate to Seattle in next few months...That was before I got the Google hiring committee approval. Now I am really confused :) !!

I'd like to get an opinion on the Google offer since it's L3. Is it really worth taking a down level?

Current TC - INR 35 LPA.
YOE - 3 years, all at Amazon. Got promoted last year Q3.

Short term goal (next 2 years) Move to the US and earn some 🤑💲

Google TC - INR 50 LPA

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TOP 37 Comments
  • Microsoft Beepbopyip
    You will not earn more money in the USA (especially if you settle here). Go to Canada or Australia for a better future
    Oct 5 8
    • Microsoft Beepbopyip
      Lol, 7 to 10? That's what ever Kumar, Raju and reddy says
      Oct 5
    • Amazon / Eng Somebdy
      OP
      I don't know what your problem is with Indians, but my family is in India and I don't want to be in the constant visa/GC limbo, it's not worth the hassle.
      Oct 5
    • Microsoft Beepbopyip
      Indian myself stuck in the limbo, it's just not worth it. Your usd will not take you long in India. Indian inflation is a killer
      Oct 5
    • Microsoft
      Gnec

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      Looks like from your comments, you are heavily tilted towards coming to the us anyways. I’ve done similar, but I moved back in under 2 years as I liked my cost of living to pay ratio in India way better
      Oct 5
    • Australia does not offer a better future. The govt does not want anyone to migrate to Melbourne and sydney
      Oct 13
  • Uber / Data Guiliani
    I will give you a friendly advice - don’t day trade your career. Think long term. Optimizing just for short term money is a rookie mistake.
    Oct 5 1
    • Amazon / Eng Somebdy
      OP
      Short term optimization is not just for money. I have a personal situation that requires the kind of money that only 💲could pay off. That being said, I am happy with Amazon and moving to Seattle was anyway the next step for me. I do agree that I shouldn't take career decisions based on short term goals. I am just trying to evaluate it from a career perspective as well. I don't want to join start ups / smaller sized companies right now.
      Oct 5
  • Visa / Eng se1
    Go for Google. You can relocate with Google as well.
    Oct 5 1
    • Sumo Logic / Eng yippppe
      Google is cutting down big time on relocation as Bangalore office is expanding . This is just downlevel to L3 and you will be doing work which a fresh grad is doing and promo will take another 1-2 years . TC wise also this doesn't make sense. Average SDE2 pay is much above what Google L3 can offer (50+ is not very difficult )
      Oct 5
  • Sumo Logic / Eng yippppe
    This is just an outright downlevel . Google will just match/beat your TC and with a very low base (around 18L). Average time for promo is 2 years and it will take you another one to two years for becoming L4 . Relocation will be tricky as Google is expanding in Bangalore and there are lots of cost cutting measures going on . That said if it is your dream to work at Google you should take it .
    Oct 5 1
    • Amazon / Eng Somebdy
      OP
      It definitely is a dream, but I can't base my decision solely on that. I don't have TC from Google yet so I can't really comment on it.
      Oct 5
  • Amazon hehe_haha
    Keeping in mind that Amazon is the easiest place to relocate from India to US. Not every company easily sends you.
    Oct 5 0
  • Amazon vUbq83
    You've been lowballed by Amazon. Base is usually 35lpa for Amazon sde 2
    Oct 5 5
    • Amazon / Eng Somebdy
      OP
      I joined as a college fresher. Amazon comp is inline with what others got after promo
      Oct 5
    • Amazon vUbq83
      Yeah, I get that external hires usually get 35 base. Also I suggest you stay for a year as your full share vesting time is 4 years. You can talk to Google after a few months or a year when you can make a clear decision.
      Oct 5
    • Amazon / Eng Somebdy
      OP
      Stocks are a never ending cycle. I got a lot of stock on my promo and annual hike. Anyway, Google recruiter said they will match equity. Also waiting for an year and then joining as L3 @ Google would be stupid.
      Oct 5
    • Amazon vUbq83
      You can negotiate for l4 at Google after a year. But this is if and but. You got to decide what you really want at the end.
      Oct 5
    • Intuit 74831
      How much stocks you got as part of promo/annual hike and whats the vesting schedule for those.
      Oct 5
  • Amazon / Product nomad9876
    Google’s levels are different. L3 isnt downleveling for a L5 SDE. Check levels.fyi. I am a L6 at amazon. Would choose google over amazon anyday.
    Oct 5 2
    • Amazon / Eng Somebdy
      OP
      Levels.fyi maps Amazon L4 to Google L3. Looks like a downlevel to me!
      Oct 5
    • Sumo Logic / Eng yippppe
      @nomad9876 did you even have a look at levels.fyi before putting it. Amazon L5 perfectly maps to Google L4. Op has been L5 for around an year .People like you are the reason Google feels it can lowball candidates and people will still join
      Oct 6
  • Amazon / Eng
    pgnn00

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    Off topic
    How was the interview at Google? How many rounds and difficulty level?
    Oct 5 1
    • Amazon / Eng Somebdy
      OP
      5 rounds. LC medium-hard
      Oct 5
  • Uber / Data Guiliani
    You will silently die an anonymous death at Google. I am assuming your work quality is meaningful at Amazon - hence the promo. Better to go to a startup instead. How about udaan.com ?
    Oct 5 1
    • Amazon / Eng Somebdy
      OP
      Doesn't align with my short term goals. Updated the post to highlight the same. I'd like to keep the discussion and comparison limited to Amazon and Google
      Oct 5
  • Apple KGHP41
    Go for Google. It’s in ultra growth phase in India. You will get promoted quicker than being in the US. You can move once you’re happy with your level.
    Oct 5 0
  • Amazon / Eng Somebdy
    OP
    I wonder why no one from Google has responded here. Does Google have a ban on Blind?
    Oct 7 4
    • Sumo Logic / Eng yippppe
      @Amazon did you get a team match ?
      Oct 7
    • Amazon / Eng Somebdy
      OP
      Yes. Got the offer. TC 50 LPA.
      Nov 5
    • Qualcomm / Eng qcomSam
      Can you please share the breakdown of the offer?
      Nov 8
    • Amazon / Eng Somebdy
      OP
      Don't want to do it to stay anonymous. It's a pretty standard breakdown that you see in other posts related to Google comp. They have reduced my base by 15%. Final TC has almost equal weightage to equity and base. There's of course signon for the first year.
      Nov 8
  • New xFXf52
    What's your Amazon Seattle Offer TC?
    Oct 5 1
    • Amazon / Eng Somebdy
      OP
      I am in early conversations with a few managers. Don't have an offer yet. TC would be USD ~175k
      Oct 5

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