Amazon L7 Product Manager Compensation Range

Microsoft Jackson 4
Feb 17, 2018 27 Comments

What's the total compensation range for Level 7 Principal Product Manager (IC) in AWS?

I know it starts at 300k at the lower end. Was wondering whether asking for 425-450k is in the realm of possibility or fantasy.

What's a realistic target to shoot for during negotiation for this level?

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    Hbfhnjj

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    Starts at 250 ish. Can obviously go much higher. 300 seems to be a good target on the way in. There are lots of L7 PMs without direct reports, like me.
    Feb 17, 2018 8
    • Microsoft SayTheWord
      How easy/difficult is it to show impact as an L7 IC compared to an L7 who is a people manager?
      Feb 17, 2018
    • Amazon / Product
      Hbfhnjj

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      It’s a big job, but a good manager should be able to scope the role such that delivering on it will show impact. And as an L7, you’re expected to help scope the role. It’s better than being an L65/66 IC at MSFT as an example because I feel like there are comparatively more ICs at L7 in Amazon.
      Feb 17, 2018
    • Microsoft SayTheWord
      Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I recently joined as an L6 from microsoft and am keen on getting to L7 over the next 2-3 years. Trying to set my expectations and understand what I can do well to get to L7.
      Feb 17, 2018
    • Amazon / Product
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      That’s not a bad timeline, but you’ll need big scope, big results and a lot of support both inside and outside your org. I think it’s 7 L7s that will need to support your promo.
      Feb 17, 2018
    • Microsoft SayTheWord
      Wow! Thanks! What is a more realistic target?
      Feb 17, 2018
    • Amazon / Product
      Hbfhnjj

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      Of course! 2-3 years is doable, but hard. There was an L6 PM on the Amazon Blind tab the other day who was hired out of MBA school and made to L7 in 2.5 years I think. He stressed big projects and broad visibility too. The problem with predicted timelines is that both L6 and L7 are “career levels”. Some people never get to L7. I was at MSFT for a long time, it’s like the 64 to 65 jump, some people just never make it.
      I’d have an early conversation with your manager, particularly if they’ve promoted others to L7 before. Identify those teams/people that could be supporters early on and if they move on, find a replacement. Learn about the promo doc process. Odds are that it doesn’t get through the first time.
      Feb 17, 2018
    • Microsoft SayTheWord
      Thanks for the tips! Will get started on it right away.
      Feb 17, 2018
    • L5 vs L6 vs L7 PMs (ICs). How do their responsibilities (and expectations) vary. Scope is of course larger as you move up the chain.

      How is a candidate gauged to fit L5 better than L6 or L6 better than L7 in an interview?
      Aug 25, 2018
  • Amazon seatactech
    L7 (IC) ranges from 280-450k. You can totally can get close to 400k. It’s always better to get higher number upfront, Increments are joke even if you get TT (top tier) rating.
    Feb 18, 2018 3
    • Microsoft Jackson 4
      OP
      This is great info. Thank you much
      Feb 18, 2018
    • Microsoft Jackson 4
      OP
      Is the Sr Mgr L7 range different than IC L7?
      Feb 18, 2018
    • Amazon seatactech
      Yes it is. Sr. Managers can make upto 450k
      Feb 19, 2018
  • Amazon / Product Bozos3
    The range starts a lot lower than 300K. 450K is unrealistic as an IC unless you have very specialized skills
    Feb 17, 2018 6
    • Amazon IUcu05
      L7 should have direct reports, so not an IC, right?
      Feb 17, 2018
    • Microsoft SayTheWord
      L7 range starts around 250k but on an average, you should be looking at around 350k-375k as gettable. Aim for higher and see what they offer. L7 can be IC but it is much harder to show impact as an IC unless you are a superstar.
      Feb 17, 2018
    • Google timeless
      L7 IC PM is a principal PM. Similar to Sr Dev Mgr vs Principal SDE.
      Feb 20, 2018
    • Amazon Ruby Girl
      What’s IC?
      Mar 3, 2018
    • Microsoft jumpr
      Stands for integrated circuits. In Amazon it’s usually the folks working with hardware d vices
      May 12, 2018
    • LOL, but an Individual Contributor
      Aug 25, 2018
  • Amazon / Product
    Hbfhnjj

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    425 is very unrealistic unless you have a very rare skill set. Having said that, odds are good that you’d get to 425 over time based on stock appreciation and additional stock grants.
    Feb 17, 2018 0
  • Amazon / Product
    Hbfhnjj

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    For comparison, what is your level and current comp at MSFT?
    Feb 17, 2018 2
    • Microsoft Jackson 4
      OP
      I make 300k at 65
      Feb 17, 2018
    • Amazon / Product
      Hbfhnjj

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      I think you could realistically expect 350 then.
      Feb 17, 2018
  • Amazon the Griz
    Do Principals become Sr. Mgrs automatically once they get reports? If not, how does the change happen?
    May 12, 2018 1
    • Amazon / Product Yinsen
      No. I have seen sr mgr with no direct reports and principal PM’s with big teams. Have even seen a principal PM managing a sr mgr
      May 17, 2018
  • New BWhe11
    Not necessarily.
    Feb 17, 2018 0

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