Received the verbal offer today. 160 base 550 bonus 450 units of stock (that is 738k at today's price) Year 1 &year 2 TC: ~500k/yr Year 3&4 TC: ~450k/yr(excluding stock growth - hard to predict). What do u think? Low, abv or high offer? How room do I have for negotiation? Anyone knows the L7 ceiling?
Congratulation on an L7 SDM offer. Numbers wise - this looks close to a stretch top of band L6 offer (for years 3-4). I think you have room for 50-100k more - easily. Bonus seems pretty high - I’d shoot for 600 RSUs - should be achievable. Source: L6 offer I had - which maxed out at 450
Offers always assume 15% per year appreciation. So no, this is a clear L7 offer.
Thanks. That was my hunch too. 67@MS could go get as high as 700K+ on a very good year. So this *seems* a bit low for a level that Amazon recruiters boast Ms 68s (partners) join. Not sure how statistically true that is.
Base is low, but that's typical Amazon. overall a very good offer, especially if the stock retraces earlier growth pattern. Also I think Amazon offer assumes 15% yoy stock growth for your target comp and you will be compensated for the difference if stock doesn't grow that much (I heard this from the recruiter while negotiating my offer a while ago)
As far as I have learned - you should not count in stock growth. Things get too complicated/subjective at that point. But good to know that Amazon matches if 15% growth is lacking. Do u know how do they make up? More stocks? Cash?
What is your YOE?
what’s your YOE total and in management?
This is pretty fair for L7, you probably have a bit of room to negotiate. Go for 175 base
Very low.
Care to elaborate? Or r u just trolling :-)
L6 can get 450k for real
Good L7 offer. You will start accumulating new stocks after the second year. So your years 3 and 4 will be higher than what you have here even with zero stock growth. You have a room for extra initial stock Grant's though to get your comp to 520-530
Did you end up joining Amazon? Care to share the final numbers? I am in a similar situation right now. Thx!
L7 SDM? What is your offer? Seattle?
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