Amazon SDE3 or Applied Scientist?

Dell / Data Sabuu
Nov 18, 2018 10 Comments

I am new hire SDE 2 with 230k TC in Seattle. I have 5 YOE and PhD in CS. What would be the best direction for me after 2-3 years. Assuming there might be a TC cliff after the second year if I remain in this L5 level.

I care more about my TC in long term.

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  • Google / Eng
    chum lee

    Google Eng

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    chum leemore
    Don't bother with l5 applied scientist. Other l5 roles at Amazon are their way of saying they are promoting you without really promoting you. Either get to l6 or jump ship.
    Nov 18, 2018 0
  • Amazon / Eng
    Tf3456XcAs

    Amazon Eng

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    Microsoft
    Tf3456XcAsmore
    L6 SDE is a far more supported career at Amazon than applied scientist. Amazon culturally doesn't know how to build research orgs because all the managers treat them like SDE orgs and it fails.

    Speaking from direct personal experience and the experience of many talented friends.
    Nov 18, 2018 0
  • Amazon bxuu70
    If ML is what you want to do. Beef up your skills and jump to another FANG. Easiest path to get promoted and change course.
    Nov 18, 2018 0
  • Google 0xFFFFFFFE
    Become a manager, get promo, then switch out again
    Nov 18, 2018 1
    • Dell / Data Sabuu
      OP
      I don’t really like managing other people
      Nov 18, 2018
  • Amazon Ffej
    SDE3, or L6 pays more. So whatever you need to do to get a promotion will get you more TC. L5 AS is not a promotion. But if it helps you enjoy your job more and makes you more successful...
    Nov 18, 2018 0
  • Amazon / Eng JMandrake
    Given that TC is your first priority, unless you are dead set on staying in Seattle, I’d recommend moving to NY and joining a firm involved in prop trading — e.g. D. E. Shaw & Co. They pay their developers and quants handsomely and value academic qualifications — like a Ph.D. — a lot.
    Nov 18, 2018 3
    • New raace
      More than $300-400k? Cause OP next move to senior will give him that.
      Nov 18, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng dlgh322
      2sigma can easily pay more than 300-400k
      Nov 18, 2018
    • New raace
      Example numbers with YOE for 2sigma?
      Nov 18, 2018