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May 27, 2018 70 Comments

People say that your experience at Amazon varies greatly by the team you are on. Can anyone share Amazon product teams that are good and ones that should be avoided?

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  • Amazon Ougkfgjjh
    Don’t join amazon if you want a peace life
    May 28, 20184
    • Amazon Limp
      I am chilling on my couch, trees green, flowers in bloom, deers grazing, birds chirping, peacefully overlooking the water of pleasant bay down the hill. I disagree with you.

      Shit... my Roomba just started. There went my peace.

      Remember the OP is asking specifically about this. If your team sucks then give that advice. Generalizing definitely doesn’t work at Amazon. I am super content.
      May 28, 2018
    • Amazon Ougkfgjjh
      I gave my opinion... you can give yours
      May 28, 2018
    • Amazon Limp
      Sure, but providing feedback for your reason is always valuable. What team do you work on? How do you feel about your own contributions? Where are the problems?

      Obviously you don’t have to add value to the comment, that’s your choice. It does little to persuade or inform otherwise.
      May 28, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng
      Hooliganss

      AmazonEng

      BIO
      AWS
      Hooliganssmore
      Your opinion is objectively wrong though, which is his point, because there are teams that have amazing WLB. Tell the OP what team you’re on, so they don’t make the same mistake you made.
      May 30, 2018
  • Amazon / Eng
    AMz007

    AmazonEng

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    Amazon
    AMz007more
    Amzon work life balance is terrible. More over amazon is trying to scam people with part time engineer. Basically same work with half the pay. Please beware of this part time job and work from home. The work is always 18 hours. F*** they don’t let me sleep.
    May 28, 20189
    • Amazon Limp
      See my above post about peace. I work 40-45 and any overage on 40 is my choice. Sounds like you need to fix your situation, maybe a talk with your boss? HR?
      May 28, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng
      AMz007

      AmazonEng

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      AMz007more
      My boss is useless peace of shit. He is on a PIP plan. he is robo and my hr business partner always on vacation has no time for employee. May be I need to write to JEFF to say how ineffective these people are at Amazon.
      May be it is time for New York Times article 2.
      May 28, 2018
    • Amazon Limp
      Sure, go for it if you feel that will be effective for your position. Please don’t mention crying at your desk, I always struggle do address that without rolling my eyes during interviews.

      Have you talked to your skip-level or your HRs manager? I mean, sorry to be blunt but I think it is up to the individual to ensure they have a quality work life (even if t includes leaving). What about putting in for a transfer to another team? Have you done any coffee chats with hiring managers?

      There are options. The last obviously being to find a job/company more suited. Staying in the same place when you are unhappy isn’t fair to anyone.
      May 28, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng
      AMz007

      AmazonEng

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      AMz007more
      MR limp, my skip manager said if you can’t do the job. I will find an H1b guy who will take your place and who is willing to work what it take ( 24*7) Basically he is saying I will replace you with L1 or H1b worker. Dude I have it on tape. I will send it to you via private message.
      May 28, 2018
    • Amazon Limp
      Well that sucks, AMz007 - it sounds like a toxic chain. While these things do tend to work themselves out, it is usually at the detriment of lower level employees. I would highly recommend you seek other internal jobs (give Amazon a try under a good boss), bring your information to HR (escalate above your HRBP if they don’t listen), or last-resort enter the open market.

      I don’t want to patronize you, but if you got hired here then we wanted you. Our goal as an organization should be to retain qualified (re: LP) employees. I’m sorry you are in a bad leadership chain, see if escalating to the HRBPs leadership will help and keep me posted.

      I would recommend before going straight in, write an email to your HRBP and be direct with a CC to his/her manager. Explain your worries and the concerns, remember that individual contributors are net-net more valuable than people managers.

      People managers are required to run an organization, yes, but they are more easily replaced than ingenious and creative IC.
      May 28, 2018
    • Amazon / Product
      ERNo54

      AmazonProduct

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      Cummins
      ERNo54more
      Have had similar experiences here...and more often than not these end in the employee being squeezed out..I was put on the least effective rating to block me from moving and then put on a dev plan which was doomed from start. The judgement of work was not on technical quality but on how it was presented in a doc, did I have 2 and or repeating words in same sentence. Did I use present perfect tense in the doc....that is my feedback in the sham called dev plan..I will recommend getting on the open market to have leverage before you escalate....
      May 28, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng
      AMz007

      AmazonEng

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      AMz007more
      Thanks my ERNO54 friend. Amazon is toxic as fuck. It so toxic that the present perfect tense for toxic is Amazon work culture. Do you know my team mate. She had a miss carriage dude to toxic work. I have seen it all all. Yes f*** She was crying when she lost her baby dude to toxic work culture.
      May 28, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng
      Hooliganss

      AmazonEng

      BIO
      AWS
      Hooliganssmore
      What. It’s time to change teams friend. I work from 10:30 to 4 with an hour lunch. WLB is the best I’ve had yet.
      May 28, 2018
    • Amazon squak
      a lot of s**t going on in Amazon, mostly because of the fu**ed up culture.. they treat employees like s**t. a lot of racism happening.. I hate this place
      Apr 23
  • Amazon / EngJoff Bezos
    Prime Now is one of the best Amazon orgs. It's known for its work/life balance, great morale and top tier tech.
    May 27, 20181
  • Amazon / EngDr Strange
    Avoid AmazonBusiness. An engineer jumped off the building because of the toxic management.
    May 27, 20182
    • Amazon / OtherMaddy2018
      Isn’t that too old news now
      May 28, 2018
    • Amazon / EngDr Strange
      No, same toxic environment. You just don’t see it in the news.
      May 28, 2018
  • NASA / Eng
    o3n

    NASAEng

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    SpaceX
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    Software developer and system administrator working in the aerospace industry.
    o3nmore
    I recently took a job working for AWS. Came in with a little over five years experience. I was very apprehensive about working here based on Glassdoor.com reviews and first hand accounts I received from friends and colleagues.

    During my interview process, I grilled everyone on work life balance and always asked what they hated most about working at Amazon. I was pretty satisfied with the answers and decided to take the plunge.

    So far I really like it here. Work/life balance is great. My team is very chill. Manager is super cool. I can Telework almost anytime I want. Free beer on tap, nerf gun wars, and ability to bring my dog to work.

    YMMV. There are teams within my building that are overworked. I did a great job of finding a team that wasn’t going to require 10-12 hour work days, but still allow me to grow. I do put in a lot more work than require, but only because I am single, Love my job, and trying to move ahead.
    Jul 1, 20181
    • Oracle
      functi

      Oracle

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      functimore
      You sound very new. Wait until the average burn out time of 1yr and we’ll revisit your comment
      Feb 23
  • Microsoft qbys57
    I was on the content management system for the main retail website for a year and it was terrible. Nothing but on-call tickets and getting paged.

    The next year I was on an AWS Service that was really high in the stack and it was awesome. Really easy on-call and tons of greenfield coding.
    May 27, 20180
  • Capital One / OtherFhchdj
    How are the Devices and Alexa teams? Can anybody share their experiences
    Aug 18, 20180
  • Microsoft Sheesha
    How are teams in Alexa? They seem to be hiring a lot. Is it because of big turnover?
    Sep 30, 20182
    • Cisco / ProductU there
      😦
      Mar 16
    • Amazon / QA
      ltvf02amzn

      AmazonQA

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      NetMotion
      ltvf02amznmore
      Good team. Lot of learning curve and you get to learn too many new technologies
      Apr 2
  • Amazon / Eng
    Hooliganss

    AmazonEng

    BIO
    AWS
    Hooliganssmore
    Sure, most EC2 teams are solid. Twitch-affiliated teams under Amazon are also solid. I have some friends on some infrastructure teams that love their work. Some guys transferred off my team to ML/AI work in AWS and they love their stuff.
    May 27, 20180
  • Amazon hSxe66
    Avoid TRX. Last Mile. Terrible Director and the attrition rate is astounding. 4 managers in the last 1.5 years
    Jun 30, 20183
    • What is TRX? In interviewing for a LP job within this area in 2 days.
      Aug 4, 2018
    • Amazon / DesignFruitless
      I agree. Stay far away from TRX. It’s a part of Last Mile. I’ve had 5 managers in 1 year 10 months
      Nov 27, 2018
    • Lytx / EngHDmr56
      What is TRX? Is this team in Seattle?
      Jan 2
  • Microsoft Famazon2
    The rising of Amazon is because it went to market earlier and they use people as a devil. Frankly speaking their technology is shit.
    Sep 13, 20184
    • Amazon / EngonMyWay
      Don’t you guys use AWS?
      Sep 13, 2018
    • Oracle
      functi

      Oracle

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      Amazon, Microsoft, 500 Startups
      functimore
      Amazon has one person doing 10things. MS has 10 ppl doing one thing. Both technologies are shit and will soon be lathered over by a hybrid cloud solution. So chill and move on.
      Feb 23
    • All about execution. Not the best ideas or tech.
      Feb 25
    • Amazon squak
      they just take open source and put their sticker on it and sell.. nothing they make from scratch
      Apr 23
  • Cisco / ProductU there
    What about Amazon Kindle team vs Amazon Alexa AI/ML ?
    Mar 163
    • Amazon dataiq
      Amazon Alexa AL/ML team sucks. People are fighting like vultures to take on good project, trying to bring others down and few managers are picking up shitiest work to look relevant. It is toxic.
      Mar 17
    • Cisco / ProductU there
      Wow that sounds terrible, are you referring to a particular location (Seattle) or in general?
      Mar 17
    • Amazon / QA
      ltvf02amzn

      AmazonQA

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      NetMotion
      ltvf02amznmore
      Both are good teams to be
      Apr 2
  • Amazon jamming
    Avoid database org in AWS. Terrible WLB and high ops
    Jan 300
  • Amazon doef18
    Amazon music is pretty good all around
    Nov 18, 20180
  • Expedia Devdevdude
    I had a great experience in digital (Fire/Kindle specifically) for my first couple of years in 2012-2013. After Jeff Kunins came over from Skype to run Kindle, he flipped the org from a bottom-up group (lots of hackathons, great customer-obsession), to a very top-down management style focused on enhancing the bottom line. That team did and does deliver some amazing features, but the internal politics are highly toxic, and many people and features were collateral damage along the way. I bailed after my 4 year stock payoff, and it turns out I was part of a pretty big staff turnover, including the director and several of the most senior TPMs and engineering managers. People I know who are still in the group seem pretty happy, but it was a runaway train of toxicity when I left.
    Jun 22, 20180
  • Amazon / MgmtrWga50
    Devices / firetv is really good.
    May 28, 20180
  • Amazon amzn-eng
    I am in one of product teams at Alexa. Work culture is pretty chill. I think I am lucky to have that in Amazon. I work 10-5 with 1 hour lunch most of the days. So in my opinion it varies. Not so fascinating work but with this team culture I don't mind boring work.
    Oct 27, 20182
    • New / EngEjDf82
      Does the whole team work a similar schedule or did you just decide you don’t need to work 8 hours a day?
      Dec 5, 2018
    • Cisco / ProductU there
      What Product team is this :)? Is this Echo, Echo Plus, etc?
      Mar 17
  • Cisco / ProductU there
    🤔
    Mar 271
    • Microsoft h to 7
      Try AWS Cloud Directory. Great niche market they are targeting. Majority work is building new features. PM me if you wanna learn more.
      Mar 27
  • Oracle
    functi

    Oracle

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    functimore
    Avoid all database teams in aws. Bad culture and ppl with zero motivation and red eyes
    Feb 230
  • Oracle bfl62
    In Boston/Cambridge chance for SDM position at AWS/EFS, Alexa, and Audible. Any thoughts on which would be best experience?
    Nov 6, 20180
  • Amazon arov
    Teams in NY are great
    Aug 6, 20180
  • Anyone knows how it’s like in Gift cards & top ups? Is WLB good? (UK office)
    Looking at Marketing job there
    Jul 19, 20180
  • Amazon / EngFoods
    I agree, but would emphasize that variance as a whole is *low*. Most teams are just fine, some are stellar, and a few are bad, but on average your team will be pleasantly normal
    May 30, 20180
  • Microsoft famazon
    Amazon are for the following people (please note you need ALL the following qualities)
    1. You don’t care learning the cutting edge technology.
    2. You are not talented in science or tech but good at politics and more important be docile.
    3. You don’t care about your dignity.
    4. You have to make the choice between right business choice vs stupid managers.

    I am a workholic and work and life balance is not an issue to me.
    Yesterday7
    • Amazon / Eng
      onMyWay

      AmazonEng

      BIO
      AWS
      onMyWaymore
      > don’t care about learning cutting edge technology
      Maybe true for retail, definitely not true for AWS

      > you are not talented, good at politics
      You should see the Microsoft and Oracle heavy organizations in amazon. The are the pinnacle of political and bureaucratic. They are case studies on what NOT to do.

      > you don’t care about your dignity
      Imagine working at a large tech company and fooling yourself into believing you care about your “dignity”

      > make choice between business and stupid managers
      Ah yes, welcome to corporate America. I see you’re new here.

      > workaholic, work life balance not an issue
      You’re not wrong here. Don’t join amazon if you’re looking for a country club. You’ll get PIP’s quickly.
      Yesterday
    • Microsoft famazon
      Congrats - it sounds you do have all the qualities and you are in the right place.

      Have you worked for Microsoft and Oracle? I have to tell you that you are totally wrong on this point, at least from the different groups I worked.

      Money is more important than dignity? Then why are you in Amazon? Or you have to be in Amazon?

      Finally when I see work and life balance, I meant the NORMAL RANGE. When we analyze the data, we are looking for some confidence interval as representative data point for the distribution instead of min or max. Amazon stock has been stagnant for a while. Based your response, I know why.
      Yesterday
    • Amazon / Eng
      onMyWay

      AmazonEng

      BIO
      AWS
      onMyWaymore
      I interned at Microsoft. It is horribly bureaucratic. You don’t really realize it until you move to a really fast moving company that PIPs 5-10% of the workforce.

      I did not say that. I said that anyone working in a large tech company talking about their dignity is laughable. I’m here because I’m working on a cool unannounced service in AWS.

      I get that you’re seeking a normal work life balance, and you won’t find that at amazon. It’s not a secret. Stock has not been stagnant my dude.
      Yesterday
    • Microsoft famazon
      I’m sorry for your intern experience. But that is only one data point, right? I guess whether we love or hate a company are mostly based on limited samples we experienced. In term of the stock, I would recommend you to compare the Amazon stock with Microsoft stock and see which one grow faster. Glad you enjoy your work at AWS and good luck!
      Yesterday
    • Amazon / Eng
      onMyWay

      AmazonEng

      BIO
      AWS
      onMyWaymore
      Look, I’m happy for you that Microsoft has decided to wake up after a very very long slumber.
      Amazon has a shitload of problems, but first to market and lack of bureaucracy are not part of them.
      Yesterday
    • Microsoft famazon
      Again it depends on the team. I know very bureaucratic Amazon teams. Big companies have big variations and choosing the right team sometimes is more important than choosing a company
      Yesterday
    • Amazon / Eng
      onMyWay

      AmazonEng

      BIO
      AWS
      onMyWaymore
      Sure, you can find anything if you close enough with enough bias in search. That’s not what I was saying
      Yesterday
  • Amazon SkKX85
    A9 is known for pretty good work life balance and smooth culture
    2d0
  • Amazon hermit
    I work in A9. The team and people here are amazing.
    Apr 50
  • Amazon / ITLvGD32
    Lots of variation by team and manager. I’d recommend cstechnologies and notifications.
    Jan 100
  • Microsoft zelda9
    How about the IAM (Identity and Access Management) org in AWS?
    Nov 27, 20180
  • Amazon / EngDr Strange
    In AFT they enforce dev plans: even if you're a good engineer but worse than those around you.
    Sep 10, 20180
  • Microsoft Famazon2
    TRMS has been the worst team over years.
    Sep 10, 20180
  • Amazon / Product
    ERNo54

    AmazonProduct

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    Cummins
    ERNo54more
    Yup I know I have a very good match with the background needed for devices supply chain roles but the current manager will not let me move ..its more of squeezing out than anything at this time
    May 28, 20180

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