People say that your experience at Amazon varies greatly by the team you are on. Can anyone share Amazon product teams that are good and ones that should be avoided?
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- I am chilling on my couch, trees green, flowers in bloom, deers grazing, birds chirping, peacefully overlooking the water of pleasant bay down the hill. I disagree with you.
Shit... my Roomba just started. There went my peace.
Remember the OP is asking specifically about this. If your team sucks then give that advice. Generalizing definitely doesn’t work at Amazon. I am super content.May 28, 201812
- Sure, but providing feedback for your reason is always valuable. What team do you work on? How do you feel about your own contributions? Where are the problems?
Obviously you don’t have to add value to the comment, that’s your choice. It does little to persuade or inform otherwise.May 28, 20189
- Amzon work life balance is terrible. More over amazon is trying to scam people with part time engineer. Basically same work with half the pay. Please beware of this part time job and work from home. The work is always 18 hours. F*** they don’t let me sleep.
- My boss is useless peace of shit. He is on a PIP plan. he is robo and my hr business partner always on vacation has no time for employee. May be I need to write to JEFF to say how ineffective these people are at Amazon.
May be it is time for New York Times article 2.May 28, 20186
- Sure, go for it if you feel that will be effective for your position. Please don’t mention crying at your desk, I always struggle do address that without rolling my eyes during interviews.
Have you talked to your skip-level or your HRs manager? I mean, sorry to be blunt but I think it is up to the individual to ensure they have a quality work life (even if t includes leaving). What about putting in for a transfer to another team? Have you done any coffee chats with hiring managers?
There are options. The last obviously being to find a job/company more suited. Staying in the same place when you are unhappy isn’t fair to anyone.May 28, 20184
- MR limp, my skip manager said if you can’t do the job. I will find an H1b guy who will take your place and who is willing to work what it take ( 24*7) Basically he is saying I will replace you with L1 or H1b worker. Dude I have it on tape. I will send it to you via private message.
- Well that sucks, AMz007 - it sounds like a toxic chain. While these things do tend to work themselves out, it is usually at the detriment of lower level employees. I would highly recommend you seek other internal jobs (give Amazon a try under a good boss), bring your information to HR (escalate above your HRBP if they don’t listen), or last-resort enter the open market.
I don’t want to patronize you, but if you got hired here then we wanted you. Our goal as an organization should be to retain qualified (re: LP) employees. I’m sorry you are in a bad leadership chain, see if escalating to the HRBPs leadership will help and keep me posted.
I would recommend before going straight in, write an email to your HRBP and be direct with a CC to his/her manager. Explain your worries and the concerns, remember that individual contributors are net-net more valuable than people managers.
People managers are required to run an organization, yes, but they are more easily replaced than ingenious and creative IC.May 28, 20183
- Have had similar experiences here...and more often than not these end in the employee being squeezed out..I was put on the least effective rating to block me from moving and then put on a dev plan which was doomed from start. The judgement of work was not on technical quality but on how it was presented in a doc, did I have 2 and or repeating words in same sentence. Did I use present perfect tense in the doc....that is my feedback in the sham called dev plan..I will recommend getting on the open market to have leverage before you escalate....May 28, 20182
- Thanks my ERNO54 friend. Amazon is toxic as fuck. It so toxic that the present perfect tense for toxic is Amazon work culture. Do you know my team mate. She had a miss carriage dude to toxic work. I have seen it all all. Yes f*** She was crying when she lost her baby dude to toxic work culture.May 28, 20183
- Amazon / EngJoff BezosPrime Now is one of the best Amazon orgs. It's known for its work/life balance, great morale and top tier tech.
- Avoid AmazonBusiness. An engineer jumped off the building because of the toxic management.
- NASA / Engo3nmoreI recently took a job working for AWS. Came in with a little over five years experience. I was very apprehensive about working here based on Glassdoor.com reviews and first hand accounts I received from friends and colleagues.
During my interview process, I grilled everyone on work life balance and always asked what they hated most about working at Amazon. I was pretty satisfied with the answers and decided to take the plunge.
So far I really like it here. Work/life balance is great. My team is very chill. Manager is super cool. I can Telework almost anytime I want. Free beer on tap, nerf gun wars, and ability to bring my dog to work.
YMMV. There are teams within my building that are overworked. I did a great job of finding a team that wasn’t going to require 10-12 hour work days, but still allow me to grow. I do put in a lot more work than require, but only because I am single, Love my job, and trying to move ahead.
- Microsoft qbys57I was on the content management system for the main retail website for a year and it was terrible. Nothing but on-call tickets and getting paged.
The next year I was on an AWS Service that was really high in the stack and it was awesome. Really easy on-call and tons of greenfield coding.
- Microsoft SheeshaHow are teams in Alexa? They seem to be hiring a lot. Is it because of big turnover?
- Amazon hSxe66Avoid TRX. Last Mile. Terrible Director and the attrition rate is astounding. 4 managers in the last 1.5 years
- The rising of Amazon is because it went to market earlier and they use people as a devil. Frankly speaking their technology is shit.
- Expedia DevdevdudeI had a great experience in digital (Fire/Kindle specifically) for my first couple of years in 2012-2013. After Jeff Kunins came over from Skype to run Kindle, he flipped the org from a bottom-up group (lots of hackathons, great customer-obsession), to a very top-down management style focused on enhancing the bottom line. That team did and does deliver some amazing features, but the internal politics are highly toxic, and many people and features were collateral damage along the way. I bailed after my 4 year stock payoff, and it turns out I was part of a pretty big staff turnover, including the director and several of the most senior TPMs and engineering managers. People I know who are still in the group seem pretty happy, but it was a runaway train of toxicity when I left.
- Amazon amzn-engI am in one of product teams at Alexa. Work culture is pretty chill. I think I am lucky to have that in Amazon. I work 10-5 with 1 hour lunch most of the days. So in my opinion it varies. Not so fascinating work but with this team culture I don't mind boring work.
- Amazon are for the following people (please note you need ALL the following qualities)
1. You don’t care learning the cutting edge technology.
2. You are not talented in science or tech but good at politics and more important be docile.
3. You don’t care about your dignity.
4. You have to make the choice between right business choice vs stupid managers.
I am a workholic and work and life balance is not an issue to me.
- > don’t care about learning cutting edge technology
Maybe true for retail, definitely not true for AWS
> you are not talented, good at politics
You should see the Microsoft and Oracle heavy organizations in amazon. The are the pinnacle of political and bureaucratic. They are case studies on what NOT to do.
> you don’t care about your dignity
Imagine working at a large tech company and fooling yourself into believing you care about your “dignity”
> make choice between business and stupid managers
Ah yes, welcome to corporate America. I see you’re new here.
> workaholic, work life balance not an issue
You’re not wrong here. Don’t join amazon if you’re looking for a country club. You’ll get PIP’s quickly.
- Congrats - it sounds you do have all the qualities and you are in the right place.
Have you worked for Microsoft and Oracle? I have to tell you that you are totally wrong on this point, at least from the different groups I worked.
Money is more important than dignity? Then why are you in Amazon? Or you have to be in Amazon?
Finally when I see work and life balance, I meant the NORMAL RANGE. When we analyze the data, we are looking for some confidence interval as representative data point for the distribution instead of min or max. Amazon stock has been stagnant for a while. Based your response, I know why.
- I interned at Microsoft. It is horribly bureaucratic. You don’t really realize it until you move to a really fast moving company that PIPs 5-10% of the workforce.
I did not say that. I said that anyone working in a large tech company talking about their dignity is laughable. I’m here because I’m working on a cool unannounced service in AWS.
I get that you’re seeking a normal work life balance, and you won’t find that at amazon. It’s not a secret. Stock has not been stagnant my dude.
- I’m sorry for your intern experience. But that is only one data point, right? I guess whether we love or hate a company are mostly based on limited samples we experienced. In term of the stock, I would recommend you to compare the Amazon stock with Microsoft stock and see which one grow faster. Glad you enjoy your work at AWS and good luck!