Amazon fucking over interns
So amazon is changing the way they give return offers to interns. In the past, if you received a return offer, you were guaranteed a spot as an SDE. Now, amazon will give interns an “offer-eligible” designation which means that you’ll only get an offer if they can find a spot for you when it comes time to place you. This means that if there aren’t any spots available for you, then they will tell you to fuck off since you never had an offer to begin with. Placements happen 60-90 days before your start date, meaning if you accept the offer-eligible designation in September, graduate in May, and don’t get a placement anywhere, then you're absolutely fucked since new grad hiring is pretty much done by the end of the previous fall.
I wonder what person thought this was a good idea... isn’t it difficult to find good engineers? Why incentive them to go interview elsewhere.
Amazon, you know, the one has a website dedicated to complaining about workplace in public by employees.
Well it was a well thought decision. In summer 2017 they handed out return offers like swag, and had to freeze hiring in September to deal with reality. Also they don’t have a funnel for hiring interns, it’s emptying a bucket.
I hope this isn’t a surprise to anyone. What did anyone expect from the most unethical company out there?
Already quit and haven’t bothered changing it on Blind. Fuck Amazon!
It's just an offer. Everything hangs on a visa approval anyway.
1. You can accept and still search for other opportunities. 2. Even if you get the final offer, you can still get screwed at last moment because its just a paper and employment is at will. So why does it matter?
That’s really unfortunate, turn down the offer for that reason and tell everyone applying for an amazon internship the risk. That’s the best way to get them to change the policy.
Does not work. Amazon looks good on the resume. The toxicity does not matter in job hunt. Uber had (or still has) a toxic work environment, but guess what? People still work there.
Best way to counter this type of practice is to return the treatment. Sign the “offer” with the mindset to reneg if an offer better than Amazon comes around.
☝️this. If you are “offer-eligible” and you accept somewhere else that is giving a firm offer, just tell them the truth that putting you in a “maybe” state caused you to treat your view of whether you wanted to work at Amazon as a “maybe” as well and it was not as good as the firm offer you got at another company.
Amazon, I see what you did there. Gonna book two new cities for all you guys in hell. Yo Lucifer, sending a couple thousand more guys over to you
You aren't entitled to a job just because you are a millennial.
Did OP ever claim he is entitled to a job because OP is a millennial? OP is simply frustrated with a “yes/no/maybe” offer. When new grad hc is done, you are fucked. Surely OP can do other interviews to make a competing offer, but this “yes/no/maybe” offer policy is just stupid. Next time you want to assume a person claiming entitlement, have some sympathy. Smh. I hope your next offer becomes a “sorry we fucked you over”.
I didn’t get any sense of entitlement from OP either. Whether this has any effect in practice is a different issue, but I think OP has every right to be upset at this kind of company policy or philosophy shift.