Amazon on-site and HR not providing level details

LinkedIn Bayboy
Apr 29, 2018 22 Comments

Amazon HR is not providing the level(or a range of levels) in which they are recruiting. All what HR says is “They can hire at any level depends on interview performance”. Is it really true ? I really don’t want waste my time travel from Bay Area to Seattle for an on-site without any solid answers. Please help with some insights

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  • Amazon / Other Samsons
    Travel from Bay to Seattle is an hour and a half. Same time zone so your commitment is minimal. Go and impress them and see what happens . If the role is cool and you can see yourself fitting in with the team then it’s going to be a great opportunity for you. There is no hotter company on planet earth right now and from the hundreds of interviews I’ve participated in, I can tell you Amazon typically levels ppl very appropriately and very fairly.
    Apr 29, 2018 0
  • Apple / Eng l33tcode
    Happened to me. I was interviewing for either L6 or L7.
    Apr 29, 2018 5
    • LinkedIn Bayboy
      OP
      Will HR mentioned level before on-site interview ?
      Apr 29, 2018
    • Intuit Ldrsheep
      They didn’t and they wasted my time.
      Apr 29, 2018
    • LinkedIn Bayboy
      OP
      L7 .. is it like PMTS or Staff level or below ?
      Apr 29, 2018
    • Amazon JWdr84
      Amazon downlevels pretty hard. We don't have a Staff Engineer title. L6 IC title is Senior Software Development Engineer, L7 is Principal. L6 at Amazon is Staff at LinkedIn. L7 at Amazon is Senior Staff or Principal at LinkedIn.
      Apr 29, 2018
    • Apple / Eng l33tcode
      My recruiter was upfront with me. I was interviewing for an SDM position.
      Apr 29, 2018
  • Amazon / Eng n0v
    They'll usually have a targetted level, which is the highest level they'll think you could qualify for, and then downlevel at the debrief based on performance and manager/BR opinion. Usually uplevel is not possible because questions asked are not sufficient for a higher level.
    Apr 30, 2018 0
  • Amazon / Eng ttsev2
    There is a level for the position you applied for. There can be 3 outcomes in terms of leveling. 1. You failed the interview. No offer. 2. You rocked the interview, offer with the proper level. 3. You did a okay interview, people gave a downleveled inclined, down leveled offer. For all the interviews I have been participated, about 20% same level gire, 30% down level, 50% rejection.
    Apr 29, 2018 0
  • LinkedIn Bayboy
    OP
    Lot of good information, thank you guys. One last question, how to prepare for on-site ? I heard LP is the key area since mine is not a SDE role. Any other tips ??
    Apr 29, 2018 2
    • Amazon / Eng ttsev2
      Try to find stories from your experience that can end up with "this is the example of [insert lp here]" Amazon really, really care about lp, almost every review document has to be align with those.
      Apr 29, 2018
    • Amazon / Other realJeffB
      Your recruiter should have provided you with multiple documents for interview preparation. If they haven’t done that, let me know and I will make sure you get those documents.
      Apr 30, 2018
  • LinkedIn Bayboy
    OP
    Thank you for all the valuable informations. Will amazon give L6 or above for non SDE/SDM roles ?
    Apr 30, 2018 1
    • Amazon / Eng n0v
      Yes, though salary range is different (and usually lower) for non sde roles.
      Apr 30, 2018
  • Amazon / Product
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    L6 should be at least $350k
    Apr 29, 2018 1
    • Amazon / Other Samsons
      For an SDE, not a non tech role.
      Apr 29, 2018
  • Amazon / Eng Am A Bot
    There are leveling guidelines and if there is doubt about what level you are, then they interview at the higher level.

    At Amazon the levels are incredibly broad. The higher tier of L5 and practically all L6 would be principals elsewhere.
    Apr 29, 2018 1
    • Amazon / Eng while(😪)☕
      I went from a Principal at a small startup to a high L5 at Amazon and still had a huge income increase.
      Apr 29, 2018
  • LinkedIn Bayboy
    OP
    Is it L6 higher end TC ?
    Apr 29, 2018 0
  • LinkedIn Bayboy
    OP
    Ohh.. how about L5 and L6 Salary range with bonus and RSU for Seattle location ?
    Apr 29, 2018 0
  • LinkedIn Bayboy
    OP
    This is not for SDE role .. it’s for a release engineer role
    Apr 29, 2018 0
  • Amazon dalejrjr
    Ask for interview schedule and topics covered. If this is for SDE and if there's one or more system design hour (not component design) then you're interviewed at L6, but you could still get downleveled after the interview. For L7 there's some kind of panel I beleive and would probably require another on-site
    Apr 29, 2018 0