Amazon pivot removed?
Heard from a friend - From April there will be no pivot process. Dev plan followed by PIP. (I don't know any further details). Can someone confirm if that is true?
Amazon is really manager heaven.
This is incorrect, but the change is confusing. Used to be: Dev plan to Pivot, choose: Appeal (was pivot supported and documented) Leave Amazon, get 3x PIP severance Enter PIP Now: Dev plan -> Pivot, choose: Leave amazon, 3x pip severance PIP On pip failure, choose: Leave amazon, severance Appeal, proving pip failure was not properly documented You can still leave with enhanced severance, you don’t go right to PIP as used to be the case.
I was implementing this change, but was auto pivoted during testing phase.
Does Amazon still have the rule where you can't apply for a job there until 1 year after you are fired? Not sure if this applies only to those who failed PIP or also those who lost the appeal.
I'd never go back to the company that fires me. Why would you?
If you leave while on dev list you are not eligible for rehire. Period. They could change the policy and say 3 or 5 or whatever years, but we aren’t having enough trouble hiring that we’d rehire people proven to be below the bar.
“Below the bar” statement implies that people don’t have what it takes to be at Amazon. Possibly true on some cases - but in many cases, the job or manager can be a bad fit. In many cases it’s manager-driven, not performance.
What's the difference? Is this worse or better?
Bad... because you cannot appeal now. In pivot there is an independent panel to decide if the manager was fair and if you should be out of the Dev plan.
ahh I see, wonder why they moved away from that