Amazon to Google compensation

Amazon / Eng lgfD77
Jul 18, 2018 19 Comments

Google swe offer for MTV (after all negotiation) tc: ~220k (133k+15%+$270k stocks). “senior” L3. Interesting team.

Currently L4 (about to move to L5 next quarter mostly) with 1.5yr experience+Masters+1.5yr foreign experience. Current tc ~140k (Seattle). I would probably make slightly more base than offered after promotion. Current work and manager are also not bad.

Is the offer good enough to make the switch? How fast can people jump from L3->L4?

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  • Amazon tuhghkgn
    There is nothing called senior L3.
    Be prepared to get your ass kicked by fresh undergrad l3
    Jul 18, 2018 8
    • Amazon / Eng lgfD77
      OP
      I know haha. But that’s how they’re trying to sell it to me.
      Jul 18, 2018
    • Amazon tuhghkgn
      If it makes you feel any better, sde 2 at Amazon and I accepted Google L3 offer.
      Jul 18, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng lgfD77
      OP
      Already joined? Willing to disclose tc?
      Jul 18, 2018
    • Amazon Jabberwook
      Wow that is pathetic, downleveling yourself like that. People work for 2-3 years to make L5 at Amazon. Plenty of 8-10 YOE L5s. To put your tail between your legs and take a T3 offer at G.... I mean, it means that the only fucking thing you are good at is leetcode and you were misleveled from the start at Amazon.
      Jul 18, 2018
    • Amazon tuhghkgn
      Amazon SDE2 hiring bar has become so pathetic that I would rather be a L3 at Google than SDE2 at Amazon.

      "Just good at leetcode" that's what every Amazonion who can't make it to Google or FB says.

      Btw, was promoted at Amazon after 1.5 years never misleveled.
      Have just 2 yoe. I don't mind the downlevel since they gave me a 25% raise.
      Jul 18, 2018
    • Amazon Jabberwook
      The SDE2s on my team are dominant. Guess that's why we get more respect than any other team in our org. Sorry you were on a shit team.
      Jul 18, 2018
    • Amazon tuhghkgn
      Good for you.
      Jul 18, 2018
    • Google / Eng
      Shaktiman’

      Google Eng

      PRE
      Amazon
      Shaktiman’more
      ^ Agree, sde-2 bar in most teams became joke. It is better to join Google as L3 than Amazon as sde2 for yoe < 3 years. Also, think about long term, it would not matter.

      Having Amazon at the resume does not count much anyways these days.
      Aug 3, 2018
  • Google 🕷e
    There is nothing called Senior L3. Being underlevelled becomes frustrating and will bite you in a couple of years. Tell them you would circle back when Google is willing to consider you for L4!
    Jul 18, 2018 0
  • Google cv51th
    High cost of living and extra taxes in MTV would make that more like 180 vs 140. But you can go L3 to L4 in 1-1.5 year, which can move your tc to ~250-280K. Even better would be to take the offer but to stay in Seattle. There's plenty of room in Google Sea/Kir.
    Jul 18, 2018 2
    • Amazon / Eng lgfD77
      OP
      I guessing they would adjust the offer for Seattle accordingly?
      Jul 18, 2018
    • Google cv51th
      AFAIK, they only adjust the base, and by a small amount.
      Jul 18, 2018
  • Facebook GoogI
    Forget about promo to L5 at G with your yoe.
    Jul 18, 2018 1
    • Amazon / Eng lgfD77
      OP
      Nor am I expecting that :)
      Jul 18, 2018
  • Google HighBall
    It's likely that your future teammates are underleveled L4's with 10 YoE and fresh grad L3's from MIT/Stanford/Berkeley who know about the latest ML/AI trends and are willing to work 60 hours a week.
    Jul 18, 2018 1
    • Amazon Jabberwook
      Sounds like fun. Amazon is mostly the same though. Industry hires are mostly unhappy underleveled L5s, and our L4s are hardworking top CS grads, just one notch less top than the ones at Goog.
      Jul 19, 2018
  • Cisco picklechin
    Holly Molly. Thats a lot of stock money there.
    Jul 18, 2018 0
  • Amazon / Eng sos567
    Even after promotion, I would say Google TC would be higher than promoted L5 TC. As its Cali, adding extra taxes and higher cost of living both TC are really close. Your decision would mostly depend on how you like current work vs Google team
    Jul 18, 2018 0

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