Amazon vs Apple

Amazon sAFI32
Jun 6, 2018 29 Comments

Offer from Amazon ML services team vs Apple Siri sdk. Apple TC is better but work seems more challenging at Amazon. What would you guys pick and why? Both positions in Bay area.

I would have to work harder for lesser pay but potentially bleeding edge technology. (Edit : ml related backend services)

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TOP 29 Comments
  • Amazon Mary2018
    Apple is a fashion brand. Apple hasn't been a true technology company for going on 30 years.
    Jun 6, 2018 5
    • Amazon / Eng Benny Lava
      Nor had Amazon ever. Copying and pasting open source and reference design around is neither fashion or technology.
      Jun 6, 2018
    • Amazon Mary2018
      Amazon is doing groundbreaking work in NLP, image recognition, robotics, et cetera. We are generally considered among the top 5 tech firms to work for alongside Facebook, Google, Netflix, Uber et al
      Jun 6, 2018
    • Apple dx333
      Lol
      Jun 6, 2018
    • Amazon / Other
      Humdinger

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      Humdingermore
      Mary, stop smoking that Jane.
      Jun 6, 2018
    • Amazon WxDK11
      Lol Mary you are fun, which NLP work are you refer to? Stop smoking
      Jun 21, 2018
  • Amazon / Eng Glued
    Please post the TC breakdown of both offers or GTFO
    Jun 6, 2018 1
  • Amazon bananamaan
    Is this for an SDE role at Amazon? If so, don't expect to do any ML work, but instead support scientists and ML engineers. There's this new role ML engineer which sounds promising but what you'd actually work on mostly depend on the team. Also, ML services doesn't sound bleeding edge IMO. Probably backend development that happens to be ML related. Again, clarify what you would be working on in the next 6-12 months
    Jun 6, 2018 3
    • Amazon max9chars
      ^this
      Jun 6, 2018
    • Amazon sAFI32
      OP
      Appreciate the feedback. Yes, SDE @ Amazon. You are spot on with the 'back end services related to ML'. I don't have prior BE experience and was hoping to gain that here. I would be helping the team build micro services.
      Jun 6, 2018
    • Amazon bananamaan
      Then don't expect to work on bleeding edge tech as mentioned in your OP. It could happen if you push for more sciency work with a potential to Pivot to AS role, but most SDEs don't do that.
      Jun 6, 2018
  • Amazon / Eng TCYOE-GTFO
    Make sure you talk to an engineer if you can. IDK about Apple but Amazon managers tend to show a great picture about their work and it's not always true. With that said, I've heard the 'real' ML stuff happens in the Bay Area, so you should be in better shape. For Seattle it's only supporting these teams.
    Jun 6, 2018 3
    • Amazon grrr8
      Mostly devices work happening in Bay Area. Largest number of ML people is in Boston
      Jun 6, 2018
    • Amazon sAFI32
      OP
      Yeah it is building services for ml related work. Given that, is the Amazon team still worth it?
      Jun 6, 2018
    • Amazon grrr8
      Well - if the offer is for SDE then you won’t be doing much actual ML. You’ll be building Java web services using an internal framework. If that’s what you want to do then you’ll definitely dig it. If you want to actually do ML then make sure scientist is in your title.
      Jun 6, 2018
  • Amazon / Other
    Humdinger

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    Humdingermore
    As a dev on Amazon ML you will work on distributed systems that host a bunch of algorithms that support a service. And you will get burnt out as f$@k... the org is thankless and had 0 character.
    Jun 6, 2018 3
    • Can you share what team you're on and how long you've been there? ... Asking for a friend. Thanks!
      Jun 6, 2018
    • Amazon / Other
      Humdinger

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      Humdingermore
      Lol
      Jun 6, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng TCYOE-GTFO
      Same. I almost joined a team and the manager promised ML work. Talked to an engineer and found their charter is mainly just deployment to regions and support.

      Ended up joining another team but this manager lied as well. Fucking Amazon.
      Jun 6, 2018
  • Apple ivy league
    I had AWS, Lab 126 and Apple..came to Apple..it's the best decision
    Jun 8, 2018 0
  • Amazon MrWer888
    Apple
    Jun 6, 2018 0
  • Uber gross
    Bleeding edge, lol
    Jun 6, 2018 0
  • Kaneva Player-1
    Ask Siri
    Jun 6, 2018 0
  • Apple CQfq70
    Amazon
    Jun 6, 2018 1
    • Amazon sAFI32
      OP
      Do you work for Apple? Why do you recommend Amazon?
      Jun 6, 2018
  • Apple xyz-a
    So which are you choosing, op?
    Jun 9, 2018 0
  • Amazon / Eng Benny Lava
    Apple.

    Amazon ML I heard it was all about supporting as mentioned, and how to help customer use our products.
    Jun 6, 2018 0
  • Amazon Shaktiman!
    Looks like you know the answer
    Jun 6, 2018 0