Amazon vs Google

Walmart.com vQiX24
Jun 8 81 Comments

Hi All,

Official offer with deadline

Amazon base :145k bonus:100k(first and second year) shares: 85 (Seattle) SDE2

Google: base: 155k , equity: 250k bonus:22k (Bay Area) L4

Both company said this is final max they can .

Is there room for further negotiation ?

Please let me know your thoughts

Yoe:4

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  • Amazon / Product
    amazeus

    Amazon Product

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    Microsoft
    amazeusmore
    Google unless you want to be in Seattle
    Jun 8 5
    • Walmart.com vQiX24
      OP
      Location is not a problem to me
      Jun 8
    • Amazon / Product
      amazeus

      Amazon Product

      PRE
      Microsoft
      amazeusmore
      Well you do have to keep taxes and CoL in mind, but if that doesn't make a difference to you then G is still my answer
      Jun 8
    • Walmart.com vQiX24
      OP
      @amazeus I told them . They said both place cool are almost similar now. They didn’t say anything on the tax part
      Jun 8
    • Amazon / Product
      amazeus

      Amazon Product

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      Microsoft
      amazeusmore
      Taxes are 5-10% more for state, and they are nuts if they think CoL is the same
      Jun 9
    • Walmart.com vQiX24
      OP
      @amexeus I agree on that .
      Jun 9
  • Amazon qwert5
    Your money will go further in Seattle and stock growth could push your TC, but go to Google.

    Yes I’ve seen much higher L5 offers but with 4 YOE it’ll be tough
    Jun 8 3
    • Amazon KoUq26
      Fyi stock growth itself is no reason to join Amazon. Both Amazon and Google have similar compound annual growth rates on their stocks if you look at history.
      Jun 8
    • Walmart.com vQiX24
      OP
      Thank you for your post. So there is no more room for negotiation right? . reasons to go to google over amazon?
      Jun 8
    • Walmart.com vQiX24
      OP
      KoUq26 thank you. I though google has annual refresher and better than amazon
      Jun 8
  • Cisco / Product U there
    YoE? Why would you even consider Amazon?
    Jun 8 1
    • Walmart.com vQiX24
      OP
      I thought it is good choice too
      Jun 8
  • NetApp kaiku
    Choose Google over Amazon any day. There is room for negotiation with Google if you can get competing offers from Facebook or airbnb
    Jun 8 8
    • Walmart.com vQiX24
      OP
      @kaiku yes . I can do it. But google gave official offer with deadline with three days left. Not sure I will have time to do interview with other companies. Please provide your thoughts on it
      Jun 8
    • NetApp kaiku
      Is team matching already done?
      Jun 8
    • Walmart.com vQiX24
      OP
      @kaiku yes.
      Jun 8
    • NetApp kaiku
      Go talk to Facebook on Monday. I'm pretty sure you can finish the process in a week. Deadlines are fake. If they like you they will always extend.
      Jun 8
    • Walmart.com vQiX24
      OP
      @kaiku had tesla but they said they will not be able to compete with google and amazon
      Jun 8
    • Walmart.com vQiX24
      OP
      @kaiku. Reaching out to recruiter or applying online
      Jun 8
    • NetApp kaiku
      Dm me
      Jun 8
    • Walmart.com vQiX24
      OP
      Sure
      Jun 8
  • Amazon stsp
    Google.
    Jun 8 1
    • Walmart.com vQiX24
      OP
      What about compensation negotiation? Can I still do it?
      Jun 8
  • Google topCon
    ABA. Anything but Amazon.
    Jun 9 6
    • Walmart.com vQiX24
      OP
      Didn’t get you
      Jun 9
    • Booking.com
      D.J. Trump

      Booking.com

      BIO
      🤬🤪🥴🥺🤫😜
      D.J. Trumpmore
      Don't go to Amazon. Read other threads. Burnout is basically guaranteed.
      Jun 10
    • Walmart.com vQiX24
      OP
      Thank you . I hear a lot
      Jun 10
    • Google topCon
      ABA = Anything But Amazon
      Jun 10
    • Walmart.com vQiX24
      OP
      Make sense
      Jun 10
    • Amazon clickk
      Strongly agreed, Amazon is pretty messed up esp. right now.
      7d
  • Uber vаr
    It looks like you are optimizing for TC which is the wrong thing to do with just 4 yoe. You should look at the work you will be doing at both places and pick one that will grow you more in your career. The high TC will follow.
    Jun 8 1
    • Walmart.com vQiX24
      OP
      @vat I totally agree .
      Jun 8
  • Amazon KoUq26
    I would go to Google just for the reason that their refreshers are fair. Amazon probably won’t give you refreshers until your 5th year. More info in my post below.

    Check out this post! "How “refreshers” work at Amazon (Compensation)"
    https://us.teamblind.com/s/pVJmPiL4
    Jun 8 1
    • Walmart.com vQiX24
      OP
      @KoUq26 thank you for the link. It seems google is better choice over amazon
      Jun 8
  • Amazon / Eng sozeb ffej
    The Amazon offer is very strong. I don't doubt they will have a hard time going any higher.
    Jun 9 5
    • Walmart.com vQiX24
      OP
      That’s what they said.
      Jun 9
    • Amazon / Eng kerbal
      Yeah, I don't know what everyone else here is saying. That's pretty high, as Amazon SDE2 offers go, from what I've seen.
      Jun 9
    • Walmart.com vQiX24
      OP
      @kerbal I was looking for higher on the stocks
      Jun 9
    • Amazon / Eng kerbal
      Yeah actually the stocks are on the high end for SDE2, which is why I commented here.
      Jun 9
    • Walmart.com vQiX24
      OP
      Thanks
      Jun 9
  • New / IT x314159
    Amazon has a max salary then the stock grants was solution architect there. I’d rather have gone with google.
    Jun 9 4
    • Walmart.com vQiX24
      OP
      @x314159 thank you for the info. Please can you elaborate on the max salary and stock architect means
      Jun 9
    • Amazon / Eng kerbal
      Max salary across the whole company is like 165k
      Jun 9
    • Amazon / Eng kerbal
      Everything else is stocks
      Jun 9
    • Walmart.com vQiX24
      OP
      @kerbal thank you for the info. There will be max salary for google too right?
      Jun 9
  • Booking.com f@ke_news
    Check out levels.fyi. I think Amazon can offer better base for SDE2
    Jun 8 4
    • Walmart.com vQiX24
      OP
      I asked for 5k more . They said it will give room for growth
      Jun 8
    • Amazon zavV44
      “Room for growth” is the response they’re taught in training, and it’s a flat out lie. You won’t see a “real” pay increase at Amazon until you are promoted. FYI, average raise was around 1% this year (>1.5 for top performers). Either get the comp you want up front or know that it’s never coming.
      Jun 8
    • Amazon / Product
      amazeus

      Amazon Product

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      amazeusmore
      ^ this is exactly correct
      Jun 8
    • Walmart.com vQiX24
      OP
      @zavV44 . True. I totally agree. They said this max they can give or said no offer to me .
      Jun 8
  • Amazon / Project
    SRjq74

    Amazon Project

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    Amazon
    SRjq74more
    google with no second thoughts
    Jun 8 3
    • Walmart.com vQiX24
      OP
      Thank you. Is there any room for negotiation?
      Jun 8
    • Amazon / Project
      SRjq74

      Amazon Project

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      Amazon
      SRjq74more
      The offer is decent I am not sure if you can negotiate more
      Jun 8
    • Walmart.com vQiX24
      OP
      @SRjq74 thank you
      Jun 8
  • Amazon clickk
    Never pick Amazon for any reason; Amazon screws you no matter what overall.
    Jun 8 3
    • Walmart.com vQiX24
      OP
      I heard this a lot. Please can you give more details
      Jun 8
    • Amazon sFez81
      100% true. Don't go for Amazon
      Jun 8
    • Walmart.com vQiX24
      OP
      Thank you @sFez81
      Jun 8
  • New / Eng blindor
    What level and role?
    Jun 8 1
    • Walmart.com vQiX24
      OP
      Updated in the post. Please let me know
      Jun 8
  • Google əๅɓoo⅁
    Both offers look good. I chose Google when facing the same choice.
    Like TC and WLB. Everything else not so much...
    Jun 8 3
    • Walmart.com vQiX24
      OP
      Thank you. Is there any room for negotiation?
      Jun 8
    • Google əๅɓoo⅁
      For Google RSU could be a bit higher.
      Jun 8
    • Walmart.com vQiX24
      OP
      They said this is max
      Jun 8
  • Walmart.com speaker
    Get to X5 here and then jump to G T5.
    Jun 8 2
    • Walmart.com vQiX24
      OP
      Sorry I didn’t get you
      Jun 8
    • Walmart.com speaker
      What is your current level at Walmart?
      Jun 8
  • Google Gentrified
    Google!
    Jun 8 1
    • Walmart.com vQiX24
      OP
      Thank you
      Jun 8
  • Yahoo rkdbfq
    Take Google. Stay for 2-4 years.
    Jun 11 2
    • Walmart.com vQiX24
      OP
      Thank you. Why 2-4 years?
      7d
    • Google / Eng modi_56
      Until the stock runs out?
      7d
  • Nvidia wagecuck
    Amazon offer is low
    Jun 9 1
    • Walmart.com vQiX24
      OP
      @wagecuck yes.
      Jun 9
  • Walmart.com / Eng QXHR44
    I would choose Google, simply because you get the same if not a little bit more level of stress than Walmart.
    Amazon is pretty toxic.
    Jun 9 1
    • Walmart.com vQiX24
      OP
      @QXHR44 thank you for the info
      Jun 9
  • New / Eng
    articuno

    New Eng

    BIO
    🤔 If I write a bio that seems to defeat the purpose of Blind.....so hello person that reads this 🙂
    articunomore
    Google. ESP if ur already working in San Bruno.
    Jun 8 1
    • Walmart.com vQiX24
      OP
      @articuno nope. I am in south East area
      Jun 8
  • Google / Eng modi_56
    I believe your Google stock will vest monthly. Consider that as well.
    Jun 8 1
    • Walmart.com vQiX24
      OP
      @modi_56 yes. That is important plus when compared to amazon . It is good
      Jun 8
  • Uber vXqR30
    google
    Jun 8 0

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