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Passionate tech manager. MBA who can code ( was senior software engineer at one of FANG companies).
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Nov 5 30 Comments

I am L6 SDM close to L7. I got an L6 offer from Google with $520K TC in Sunnyvale.
1. Wondering if I should wait and become L7 at Amazon (probably Q1 2020) and aim for FAANG L7 or move to Google?
2. How easy is it to grow to L7 in Goog?
3. what is the minimum management experience for L7 interview with Goog?(I had to delay my interviews to meet Google’s 3 yoe for L6)?

YOE: 10(3+ in management)
TC: 390K

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    • Amazon hikkuu
      My God what a bunch of disbelievers on this forum. The guy who replied first is such a foolish and stupid person, he thinks people working at LinkedIn, G, FB are all gods and it's impossible for people at normal companies to get there. Good job on keeping your composure @ibm. You secretly dealt a shame blow to that guy.
      Nov 5
    • LinkedIn tgrdf
      You both are fools. I can't claim about position and levels at IBM and Amazon because I haven't worked there. But seems like for you guys knowing this is like full time job.
      @IBM I just accepted e5 offer at Facebook at 450k tc. So chill dude...i don't need leetcode advice from you.
      Nov 5
    • Amazon hikkuu
      No one gives a fuck if you accepted your FB offer. You didn't need to mention that.
      Nov 5
    • Amazon hikkuu
      Well said IBM
      Nov 5
    • LinkedIn tgrdf
      Lol@IBM 😂 you took it bit too far. My only point was not to give advice without any substantial background in that particular company.
      Nov 5
  • Google 🐢 turtle
    I wouldn’t wait. They will almost certainly downlevel you to L6 based on the info you shared. Fast promo to L7 is 2 years, and the later you start the later the clock on 2 years starts.
    Nov 5 2
    • Amazon
      alibaba123

      Amazon

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      Passionate tech manager. MBA who can code ( was senior software engineer at one of FANG companies).
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      OP
      Thanks for info. What is the average?
      Nov 5
    • Google AC/TC
      Fast promos are extremely rare. Everyone tells themselves that they will get fast promo because they are joining part way up the ladder, but that's so common it's baked into the average promo times. However, you will almost certainly be downleveled to L6 even if you get L7 at Amazon.

      Personally, I'd go to Google now if you want to go there long term. Get those extra months in at Google L6 now, so the promo to L7 will be faster than joining at L6 later.
      Nov 5
  • Amazon Spartucus
    For ICs, Google's L6 is Amazon's L7. For management, is that the same? If so, aren't you already getting 'L7' in a way?
    Nov 5 4
    • Amazon
      alibaba123

      Amazon

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      Passionate tech manager. MBA who can code ( was senior software engineer at one of FANG companies).
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      OP
      According to levels.fyi, that’s not true. Amazon L6 is same as G L6
      Nov 5
    • Google topCon
      So this means that Amazon L5 is Google L5?
      Nov 5
    • Amazon Spartucus
      Amazon L5 is definitely not Google's L5. Amazon's L5 is Google's L4. Google has more levels compared to Amazon so there is more ambiguity in higher levels I guess. Amazon L6 should be Google L5 or L6 imo but this depends on experience I guess.
      Nov 5
    • Google topCon
      Yeah, it was a reply to op saying Google L6 is Amazon L6, which is not true.
      Nov 5
  • MongoDB / Eng dijebsjai
    I would wait the few months and take the promotion, and then use it as leverage while negotiating.
    Nov 5 2
    • Amazon
      alibaba123

      Amazon

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      Passionate tech manager. MBA who can code ( was senior software engineer at one of FANG companies).
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      OP
      Do you know how long is Google offer valid? I heard some place that it will be good for an year?
      Nov 5
    • Cerner / Eng
      StyaPichai

      Cerner Eng

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      StyaPichaimore
      1 year as they say but your recruiter will be your best bet.
      Nov 5
  • Apple agshsy
    L6 of Amazon is T5 of G. Your offer is already for T6 which is equivalent to L7 of Amazon. Take it.
    Nov 5 0
  • Google topCon
    99% chance you'll go from 7 to 6 at Google.

    I know of one Amazon Sr Director who came on as a 7.
    Nov 5 2
    • Microsoft $msft
      Lol, Sr Director does not exist at amazon, so that’s a made up story but thanks for sharing
      Nov 5
    • Google topCon
      He was director level at Amazon, came on as a 7. Relax, Google down levels everyone. Even VPs come in as 7
      Nov 5
  • Microsoft OgUa26
    It depends on what you’ve accomplished at L7 at Amazon. If you are a newly minted L7, you can bank on getting downlevelled. Also Amazon L6 is a wide band & does not always equate to G L5.
    Nov 8 0
  • Salesforce / Eng Full-Send
    390 to 520 is quite significant
    Nov 5 0
  • Google phohana
    G don’t give people 7 by comparing levels you will get at other places, Amazon included.

    I wouldn’t bet on getting 7 at Amazon and then hope that G will match that. G will down level you almost for certain, unless you absolutely killed it on interview m.

    Get in early, if you are a high potential performer, you already know how to get to next level. At G it will take more than just your own personal perf to move up. You will need to have some luck on the org, the product you are on, and the people you work with.
    Nov 5 1
    • Amazon
      alibaba123

      Amazon

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      Passionate tech manager. MBA who can code ( was senior software engineer at one of FANG companies).
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      OP
      I agree about luck part. That’s with any large company.
      Nov 6
  • New Reddeat
    Join Google. At the rate it downlevels you can never guarantee an L7 offer even with few years experience as an L7 at Amazon. Get 130K hike and work on the promotion
    Nov 15 0
  • Cerner / Eng
    StyaPichai

    Cerner Eng

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    This is Satya Pichai. The most powerful man on blind. DM me for acquisitions.
    StyaPichaimore
    It sounds like you are confident enough to crack Google in future as well. Stall the offer until you get promoted to L7. Negotiate for L7 at G and take additional interviews for L7 and see how it goes.
    Nov 5 0

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