Hi, I received a SDE 2 offer from Microsoft(Azure) today. Base 131k, sign on 25k, stock 50k I’ve a competing offer from Amazon(aws): Base 147k, stock 42k and 32k, stock 125k After asking Microsoft to match Amazon’s offer they changed it to: Base 137k, sign on 40k, stock 75k Also my recruiter won’t tell me if it’s level 61 or 62. And she said hiring manager won’t go beyond these numbers. Thoughts?
Make Microsoft match
Yes, I’m kind of surprised looking at their stock options.
That's probably a 61 at MSFT. If you feel confident that you will perform better than you interviewed, then gamble on yourself and take the much better company to work for, and say no to horrible amzn culture. If you are looking at this as a 3 year resume builder either way, and don't care about having a life outside of work, but just want the money, go with amzn and get out once you can proved you can cut it there (because then you can cut it anywhere)
that sounds about right. And I thought both of these companies look equally good on the resume.
why the fuck they won’t tell level? Push these bastards harder!
I feel betrayed. As per my opinion, we deserve the right to know this information.
They should tell you the level
My recruiter mentioned this information will be provided on first day at work. And it’s decided as per the performance. Shall I insist on talking to the hiring manager?
Seems like L61 offer to me.
I’m pretty sure I performed better in the interview. I’ve a total of 5 years of work experience. Since they are not disclosing the level how do I ask them to give me l62 ?
Push them to disclose the level. L62 offer for sure can go higher than the offer you have on hand from what i know.
If you're making your decision entirely on comp, you're doing it wrong. Go to the company you want to work for, both offers are not bad.
If recruiter didn't tell you the level, it's level 61. Both offers are good and Microsoft may not match your Amazon offer. FYI, MS benefits are way better than AMZ.
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Microsoft, it's the future. AMZ is going down with government regulations and poor work culture.
Yes, but i was expecting Microsoft to match my numbers at the very least. And stock option for SDE 2 looks low to me. I’ve seen people getting the same at SDE 1 level.
That is just stupid. They might have poor work culture but they are not going down