Amazon vs uber
Amazon L5 applied scientist ii in Alexa automotive team based in Santa Clara: 175k base + 148 stocks + 200k sign on Uber L4 machine learning engineer in uber eats based in SF: 153k base + 9600 rsu + 65k worth annual refresh and cash + 25k sign on Amazon says they can possibly increase by another 8-10% on the entire compensation if I give verbal accept and process is gonna go through the director. The cost is no raise or stocks refresh in first two years. Uber says they can possibly give another 20k sign on if the other offer is really competitive. Which one is more promising? How should I negotiate to improve？ PS：I will give more information here about my preference. The role in Uber is more like an engineer role, in which you work with the DS and implement their prototype model into pipeline, while the AS role in Amazon provides you the chance to do some your own research. Besides, I am not sure if there will be any on call for Uber MLE, but probably not for AS in Amazon. Secondly, Uber is in downtown SFO, which is quite far away from my girlfriend, who works in Google Sunnyvale office. However, as many mentioned, the opportunity of IPO of Uber is also really attractive. That's why it is hard for me to make the decision.
200k sign on wow
YOE?
What's you background to land these, and how did you prepare?
Uber rsu is also vested over 4 years though.
You deserve Amazon if you don't understand what the parent comment means
How was the interview process ? Was it more focused on ML or regular Data structures/ leet code stuff ?
MLE is more like taking models from data scientists and putting them in production right? Also, doing some perf enhancements. I’m a MLE in one of the teams at Microsoft, we just take scripts from DS and put them in production using a home built framework. Not very challenging (end product is good, but work we do is not challenging at all). Will your role be different?
I added some comment about that in the PS. I was confused by the JD when applying for the role, otherwise, I would have gone for DS. The manager mentioned it's quite easy to switch, but I think it will take at least half to one year.
It's not about the team but the role. The data scientist role is more attractive to me than machine learning engineer.
hmmm, if I remember correctly, there is a cap for base salary. <=160k? They might changed it recently?
Nvm, applied scientist.
Man how many time do we have to tell people, it’s 185k in Bay Area and NYC! It’s 160k elsewhere
I work as a ML Scientist at Uber (not in Eats) - but we really need and value MLEs. On the flip side, our ML infrastructure is still a bit antiquated (needs way more work to train, manage and productize models than say other big companies). Just more things to consider. DM me if you want more info on how ML and AI works at Uber.
Congrats on the offer, can you please share your prep strategy and also the interview experiences. Thanks
I have to say the L5 offers these days are really insane.
Yeah i feel so bad about myself with 8.5 yoe and still hovering around 210
Nah, don’t feel bad. That’s what Blind does to people, makes you feel bad about yourself, be it intentionally or not.