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"America is made stronger by the presence of immigrants, not walls"

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  • Microsoft *cW2x91p
    legal immigrants, sure
    Feb 617
    • Microsoft rfrw82
      @Atinlay - entire Melania family has chain migrated. Any comments on that?
      Feb 6
    • I’m just hear for the comments 🍿
      Feb 6
    • Apple EXQB54
      Legal immigration is supposed to bring in skilled labor. So it's a good thing even legal immigration has been cubed because if you look at the "skilled" immigrants legally coming into the country, boy are you in for a shock.
      Feb 6
    • New / Engleet4job
      "Is supposed to.." you mean your ancestor came here as "skilled" labors?
      Feb 6
    • TripAdvisor owlwise
      Legal migration is not 'supposed' to bring just skilled labor. Are you even from the US?
      Feb 6
    • Apple EXQB54
      So enlighten us about what legal immigration is supposed to do. What reason does America have for allowing someone from another country to come here?

      What reason does any country have?
      Feb 6
    • New TKpg12
      Legal immigration is first and foremost to help people in need, like escapees of a genocidal dictatorship, before those simply seeking better opportunity.
      Feb 6
    • TripAdvisor owlwise
      ^he said it. People immigrate to the US since its inception to escape war, poverty, persecution. That immigration ethos is built into the fabric of this nation its history and its culture. In turn, that melting pot has allowed the US to prosper and grow vs turning into a stagnant inward looking economy and culture.
      Feb 6
    • Credit Karma EllisDee25
      Migration is a fact of human existence and mass migration to job centers is a fact of modern existence under capitalism. Capitalism modernizes feudal and small-farming and with ties to the land broken, people have to migrate to areas with lots of jobs in order to survive. This was true of London, true of cities in India or Mexico or China or the US today.

      So it’s not like governments “decide” to have migration or not - they just decide how the government should respond to migration. The US didn’t police migration much until recessions and a series of depressions hit in the late 1800s and newspapers tried to blame Chinese and Southern European immigrants for economic problems caused by the recessions. Now they use immigration status to control individuals - keep “legal” immigrants dangling for a long while and keep undocumented immigrants precarious and vulnerable to authorities.
      Feb 6
    • Oath / MgmtAtinlay
      @rfrw82 yes and it needs to not be allowed. What’s your point?
      Feb 6
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    FUPayMemore
    America was founded by immigrants, built by immigrants, and maintained by the children of immigrants.
    Feb 614
    • Nutanix DCNo42
      Immigrants or settlers, it's the same thing. People move to better lands to finally settle(duh!) and built a better life for themselves and children.
      Yes, this country is nation of immigrants.
      Feb 6
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    • Walmart.com ToKL28
      It's so disgusting when people attempt to twist the Constitution into the exact opposite of what is says. There is nothing there, which limits immigration.
      Immigrants contribute to the growth of our nation. So it's good for "posterity".
      You want the nation with declining birth rate and aging population?

      We choose to welcome diverse group of hardworking contributors exactly for domestic tranquility.
      Feb 6
    • Walmart.com ToKL28
      And yes “all men are created equal” means that human rights apply even to the undocumented. We don't have casts system here. We don't have aristocracy.
      Feb 6
    • Microsoft WhiteMail
      ^ yawn
      Feb 6
    • Walmart.com ToKL28
      Glad you agree with me.
      Feb 6
    • Microsoft rfrw82
      @ToKL28 - please don't judge the entire company based on a few assholes. Like always minority of shit stains are always loudest.
      Feb 6
    • Walmart.com ToKL28
      Seems like majority of people at Microsoft are busy working. Yet all the idiots are on Blind.
      Feb 6
    • Oracle acvbgh
      @Whitemail Ahh yes - "the All men are created equal" part of the constitution -drafted by someone who owned 600 slaves. Every opposition to immigration is as hypocritical as the person who drafted the statement.
      Feb 6
    • Walmart.com ToKL28
      @oracle, I'm sorry, but blaming the founders for not abolishing the slavery before establishing the country is a bad argument. Big things can't be done overnight. Founders were not perfect.
      We can learn from them and be better.
      Some twist their teachings to justify being assholes. But that's different story.
      Feb 6
  • Chase fxJk28
    This is true except h1bs are really paranoid and ruin work culture by working too many hours..just my experience
    Feb 613
    • Chase fxJk28
      But this isn’t your country yet, so why expect citizen treatment from the start. Have to earn that just like every immigrant
      Feb 6
    • Chase fxJk28
      One can also return to home country doors are always open for that if it’s too much to handle those circumstances...
      Feb 6
    • Amazon lolwhat
      DCNo42
      This country doesn't owe you anything. And the corporations like overworking paranoid employees. They're good for the business and good for the economy.
      Feb 6
    • Oracle acvbgh
      Immigrants pay fucking taxes - of course this country owes them shit. Heck - I own Municipal bonds and Treasury Notes. I can assure you that the govt owes me 120k.
      Feb 6
    • Amazon lolwhat
      acvbgh
      Yeah, and for the taxes you paid, in return you get police protection, roads, public schools, and you get to live in a free country.
      And of course they owe you for bonds and treasury notes for the money you paid to buy those bonds and notes. But not a cozy luxury job.
      Feb 6
    • Chase fxJk28
      It’s just funny how all these guys are complaining but yet don’t return to their Home Countries. If it’s real that bad then why not go back?
      Feb 6
    • Nutanix DCNo42
      It's inertia. Good job, decent pay, have a life here, why should I uproot myself and family and resettle back home? You know these choices are personal. I don't expect anything special from this country. A bit more certainty would be nice.
      Feb 7
    • Chase fxJk28
      Yea but this implicitly means they have it better here than their alternative already...
      Feb 7
    • Nutanix DCNo42
      Marginally better in some aspects, sure. Worse in others. For me it's a balance. Incentive for me to put a stop on life here, uproot and resettle is not worth it. It's a lot of work.
      Immigration system that doesn't put people on a leash and gives them a certain answer quickly would be much better.
      Imagine a person applying for PR. Based on their skills and qualifications tell them in a reasonable time frame if they get it or not. Either answer is fine, but just tell them in maybe a few months. A No would mean pack your bags and leave. There are many good places on this planet to live and work. They will just move on to either back home or elsewhere. Don't drag them on a leash for two decades and not give them an answer. That's exactly what's happening now.
      I have applied for PR a decade ago. I am still waiting.
      Feb 7
    • Chase fxJk28
      I understand where you’re coming from I think there should be upper bound of years they should be waiting for cases like yours..if you lived here like 20 years it’s hard to imagine a life elsewhere but companies usually help retaining employees in remote locations across the world
      Feb 7
  • Apple mowat
    One of the political parties deliberately conflate legal and illegal
    Feb 69
    • Amazon ury6t
      Yeah, calling legal asylum applications "an invasion" and such
      Feb 6
    • Apple mowat
      Didnt know all illegal immigrants were legal asylum applicants. Yea bad
      Feb 6
    • Amazon ury6t
      Well if you have been following Republican sources they sure make it difficult to tell that asylum applications are legal
      Feb 6
    • Oath / MgmtAtinlay
      Nobody said it isn’t. The premises on which they request the asylum is BS, but doing it is not illegal.
      Feb 6
    • Dropbox 99+
      OP
      From what I understand asylum requests are only legal at a port of entry.
      Feb 6
    • Amazon ury6t
      Asylum requests are legal everywhere on the border and not only at approved crossings. There are no limits on the number of asylum requests at the border.

      But I understand the Republicans have been lying to you guys about this and you may be confused.
      Feb 6
    • Apple bqdp
      Was listening to NPR. They were trying to rebut Trump’s claim that illegal immigrants come here and commit crimes by citing a statistic that legal immigrants commit crimes at a lower rate than natural born citizens.
      Feb 6
    • Dropbox 99+
      OP
      If you apply at the border you can be turned away by an officer (no court) and cannot request amnesty again for 5 years. That's not the case at a port of entry.

      So technically it's not illegal, but it's a really bad idea if you actually want asylum.
      Feb 6
  • Walmart.com ToKL28
    Wall is a dumbest idea ever ventilated
    Feb 63
    • New / Engleet4job
      On the bright side, it helps me realize not all people in the US are smart and educated.
      Feb 6
    • Walmart.com ToKL28
      Lol, you don't need a wall to realize that
      Feb 6
    • TripAdvisor owlwise
      The Iraq war and George Bush should have been enough.
      Feb 6
  • Google / MgmtLovedoo
    Apply this back to 250 years. 100 years. 50 years. Would your answer change just because you have more brown than white people immigrating? We are a country of immigrants unless you are Native American, your ancestors came here on a boat and most likely illegally
    Feb 610
    • Chase fxJk28
      I’m an immigrant myself and my answer wouldn’t change..
      Feb 6
    • New / Engleet4job
      Agree w Google.

      There were no "illegal" or "undocumented" term a century ago.
      Feb 6
    • Chase fxJk28
      I doubt if tables were reversed and their home country had immigrants coming in that their fundamental right wing populations wouldn’t be doing the same to them or worse to them
      Feb 6
    • Chase fxJk28
      Just check news on what India’s Hindu right wing do to minorities (such as Muslims) there
      Feb 6
    • New / Engleet4job
      As long as they are willing to contribute to the country. Yesss!! The truth is USA is huge and so 400M or even 500M is nothing. The problem is your fixed-pie mindset.
      Feb 6
    • Chase fxJk28
      Your opinion is not the common check the news for back home country dude
      Feb 6
    • New / Engleet4job
      Huh what? Where is my home country? You mean USA?
      Feb 6
    • So, fxJk28, where are you coming from? You said you are an immigrant.
      Feb 6
    • Chase fxJk28
      India
      Feb 7
    • Thx
      Feb 7
  • Google rw55hq
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    Feb 60
  • Apple EXQB54
    Let's not forget PC for illegal is undocumented
    Feb 60
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  • Amazon imaven
    America is made stronger by the presence of hardworking, legal immigrants who pay taxes and don't overload the welfare system.
    Feb 60
  • Microsoft TrumpWins
    It’s bizarre that democrats will talk endlessly about social justice and systemic discrimination but then fully endorse and subsidize an unjust system like illegal immigration
    Feb 61
    • Amazon ury6t
      So far I haven't seen Trump do anything about illegal immigration but boy has he cracked down hard on legal immigration
      Feb 6
  • Microsoft Hyad70
    The question should not be binary...
    Feb 60
  • New UHtz31
    depends on the skill level of said immigrants
    Feb 60
  • LinkedIn engdir
    America is made stronger by liberty and capitalism, resulting in prosperity. That's why immigrants want to come here.
    Feb 60
  • Apple bqdp
    Legal immigrants
    Feb 60
  • Zulily blgb55
    False dichotomy
    Feb 60
  • Facebook / Engweba
    TC or gtfo America
    Feb 60

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