Tech IndustryMay 24, 2019
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Analyzing Netflix offer

Can somebody help me analyze the following two offers? Netflix, all-cash $500k Lyft, base: $200k, $25k sign-on and 20k RSUs While Netflix all-cash number is great, you end up paying almost half of it on taxes. Their supplemental allocation is not necessarily discounted options and doesn’t yield any gains unless the stock goes up by 40% or more. https://benefits.netflix.com/united-states/financial

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Amazon medicer May 24, 2019

You have to pay the same amount of taxes on RSUs.

Nvidia lilbity May 24, 2019

Only if you sell within the year...

Google MVou06 May 24, 2019

@lilbity: you are confusing tax on vesting vs capital tax on selling the stock. Tax on vesting gets taxed as regular income.

Amazon YcUP73 May 24, 2019

It’s not like you don’t pay taxes on RSU or sign on?

Nvidia lilbity May 24, 2019

What does 500k all cash mean? 200k base + 100k bonus over 3 years?

Nvidia wooh! May 24, 2019

No 500 cash each year every year.

Lyft oohlalyft OP May 24, 2019

Yes, 500k every year

Oracle aiabc May 24, 2019

Which position is it ? What’s your yoe ? How was the interview ?

Salesforce benimeoff May 24, 2019

Comes down to how much you believe in Lyft and its stock. I would take the guaranteed $500k from Netflix. I think there is more downside risk then upside in Lyft. Ask your self if you got paid $500k a year would you put $300k into Lyft stock? Most people would say no....

Lyft oohlalyft OP May 24, 2019

Good point. So, you would just put post-tax dollars from Netflix in a diversified portfolio? Is the supplemental allocation really a benefit from Netflix? I have trouble understanding why I would do that. The only way to make money is for NFLX stock to go above 40%

Netflix user0xFFFF May 24, 2019

Historically, the stock has massively beat the 40% cost. However, that may (or may not) still be the case in 2019+.

Lyft xnxxnx May 24, 2019

You're gonna kick yourself when Lyft stock hits $100! 😂😅🤣😭

Lyft oohlalyft OP May 24, 2019

Nobody can predict the future and if I have two choices, I would rather make the decision based on today’s number rather than speculative ups or downs

Lyft xnxxnx May 24, 2019

Optimize for today then and go with NFLX. Their compensation is tough to beat because it gets deposited to your bank account every 2 weeks.

Apple thisandth May 24, 2019

Position and YOE ??

Lyft oohlalyft OP May 24, 2019

Can’t say to protect anonymity

Microsoft Brazuka May 24, 2019

Lol, what? Pretty sure Lyft has thousands of employees.

Netflix LoveDeathR May 24, 2019

While you have to pay tax either way, when you invest in Netflix options, you can defer your income. Essentially using the income tax for investment up to 10 yrs. That's same incentive as 401k. And you don't believe NFLX can at least double in 10 yrs, you shouldn't join the company. You also get 5% extra of your salary for free options BTW. So that's 525k offer. Last but not the least, always join a company that's No.1 in the industry if you have the choice.

Lyft oohlalyft OP May 24, 2019

Totally agree. But why do they charge that 40% upfront to let employees buy the options? I wish I could put my pre-tax dollars to exercising of options instead of this extra 40%. Curious how they came up with the 40% number

Netflix LoveDeathR May 24, 2019

It's actually a discount. You can check at the money leap option. You probably need to pay 40% premium for 2 years call at the money. So Netflix is giving you 8 extra years and tax defer advantage.

Amazon L6SDE May 24, 2019

Why does nobody in this industry understand how RSUs are taxed?

SpaceX uevh5 May 24, 2019

Half of your income goes to taxes? What is this - Europe and their communist free healthcare? Oh, it's California. Ok then. Freeeeedom!

Facebook Hodinkee May 26, 2019

If you also consider sales tax it’s going to be close to 60