Anyone else notice the marked increase in passive anti Indian feeling in the Bay Area?

Microsoft wattodo
Nov 13, 2018 66 Comments

3 passive incidents I encountered in the past week during ride-sharing alone. These are 15 minute rides which I'm summarizing here. I stay quiet and listen, I don't respond to these btw.

White male, 45-55 years old: Asks dozens of questions on my visa status, how a transfer was possible, what work I do, why can't someone else do it, etc. Proceeded to turn up the volume during Trump's rhetoric on radio news, followed by "You hear that? Trump is not going to allow immigrants to stay here"

African American woman, 30-40 years old: Long spiel on how AMZN, FB, Google don't hire local African Americans, but only hire Indians as SDEs displacing them from places they were brought up in.

White Eastern European woman, 25-30 years old: Indians are the only people being hired in high paying jobs because 'their degrees are valid in the US', and no other ethnicity gets opportunities in the US.

I am an unmistakably Indian guy wearing a tech logo'ed hoodie through all these instances. I am going to safely assume these were not well intentioned. I've lived in the US for 5 years in tech cities, but there seems to be a marked increase in anti-Indian sentiment in recent times. The current Government has successfully emboldened these people to say what they always felt.

End of rant.

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TOP 66 Comments
  • Amazon amznuser
    Buy a car so that you don't have to give a damn. End of the day this is not our country and we don't belong here. Make enough money so that you can live in India comfortably and then leave.
    Nov 13, 2018 1
    • Microsoft wattodo
      OP
      Yup
      Nov 13, 2018
  • New / Eng
    Ramdevbaba

    New Eng

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    Starbucks
    Ramdevbabamore
    Subtly let them know, they are entitled to nothing.

    If they choose to pursue a fucking arts degree, they cannot magically learn to code.
    Nov 13, 2018 5
    • Qualcomm dracaryss
      This.
      When I was interning at my first work with a small mom pop IT firm the daughter of my boss was just starting her undergrad. She took shit load of loans to go to an awesome school to pursue her dream of theater. Now she is hardly making ends meet. I get there should be freedom to do what you like but at what cost?
      Then you drive Uber and blame immigrants who gave up their passions to make a good living for themselves and their family.
      Nov 13, 2018
    • Twitter Wax paper
      Except every one and their mom is learning to code now. Mass influx of coding boot camp art major
      And Econ major grads
      Nov 13, 2018
    • New / Eng
      Ramdevbaba

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      Starbucks
      Ramdevbabamore
      Good for them , but without a formal ca degree, they gonna have a hard time clearing interviews
      Nov 13, 2018
    • Qualcomm dracaryss
      Do however many boot camp you want the Indian person having seen the struggle back in India will come on top, not because he is intelligent or smart but what drives him and the American are two totally different things.
      Nov 14, 2018
    • DoubleVerify Karius123
      As Qualcomm said, the mindset is completely different. Moving to the opposite part of the globe, finding employment within the restrictive student visa, beating the odds to get a work permit, finding employment despite restrictions and increasingly hostile policies that threaten one's status in the country.... You can't compare most Indian tech immigrants's drive to succeed vs the average citizen who takes up some coding academy courses for his/her next job.
      Nov 14, 2018
  • Amazon 🐕 🐕...
    Just casually brag how much you make and rub it in.
    Nov 13, 2018 2
    • Microsoft wattodo
      OP
      You are inside the other person's car and they're driving.
      Nov 13, 2018
    • Amazon 🐕 🐕...
      Nah, nothing happens
      Nov 13, 2018
  • MediaTek / Eng TuTuLemon
    you should leave bad review and report them to uber
    Nov 13, 2018 0
  • Vertivco / Eng
    FastPapuan

    Vertivco Eng

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    YouTube, American Bureau of Shipping, Facebook
    FastPapuanmore
    What on Earth is wrong with you? How the hell is that anti-Indian? Get that bullshit out of here.
    Nov 13, 2018 0
  • Warner Bros. pDWp35
    All you have to do is say: oh that’s great to hear you say. They have such a hard time hiring engineers here locally. Do you know how to code? I can give you a referral to submit your resume.

    In reality they just want to complain and jealous about the crappy life choices they made. If they really wanted to change their life they can learn to code and get a damn job. Not that hard or a damn conspiracy to keep Americans from having their jobs.
    Nov 14, 2018 2
    • New / Eng
      Ramdevbaba

      New Eng

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      Ramdevbabamore
      This. Show the willingness to help them. That is when they know now they have no other excuse left.
      Nov 14, 2018
    • There are a ton of lower skilled jobs where Americans are being squeezed out. Most Americans are not expecting to work at Google. It's those making like $50k who are getting hammered by the import of cheap foreign labor.
      Nov 15, 2018
  • Our immigration policies have hurt working class Americans. I don't blame them for being pissed.

    It is not natural for a sovereign nation to import over a million legal immigrants annually. There will be consequences.
    Nov 15, 2018 11
    • Yes. The United States needed mass immigration back then because we rapidly industrialized after the Civil War and needed raw manpower for the labor. And we didn't have a safety net or government benefits back then. It's asinine to compare the present situation to 100+ years ago.
      Nov 15, 2018
    • Microsoft Ranveer
      Cool. Well you can vote in people who will make the policy changes you need. And I guess the current president is doing just that. but being hostile to people, who are legally here, on a job offered to them, is just stupid, racist and moronic. And justifying that as ‘consequences’ is ridiculous.
      Nov 15, 2018
    • Vertivco / Eng
      FastPapuan

      Vertivco Eng

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      YouTube, American Bureau of Shipping, Facebook
      FastPapuanmore
      No, ex, you said that it's not natural for a sovereign nation to import over a million immigrants a year. Do not strawman me man.
      Nov 15, 2018
    • I never condoned what the Uber drivers said. I'm simply saying that there's a reason why so many working class Americans are upset with our immigration policy. Both parties have failed the people, and it's a major reason why Trump is President.
      Nov 16, 2018
    • Airbnb i5overpass
      Not snarky - I would really like to get honest opinions/answers:
      Anti-immigrant sentiments I have personally encountered range from legal tech to illegal produce pickers.

      How is legally importing educated and capable people who can do a job hurting those who can’t or won’t do a job?

      How is this hurting working class Americans?

      For illegal migrants, why aren’t employers that hire them punished?
      Nov 16, 2018
  • Apple / Eng iFart
    But most of the indians I see aren’t coding, they’re pushing spreadsheets around. Lots of people can do these jobs.
    Nov 13, 2018 2
    • Amazon Klingonk
      There’s nothing stopping anyone from getting these so called spreadsheet jobs
      Nov 13, 2018
    • Amazon amznuser
      I bet those complaining are not even qualified to do that
      Nov 13, 2018
  • Microsoft Ranveer
    Why give a fuck! As long as you have a good job, your colleagues are awesome, and you are learning everyday and are getting the right opportunities to move ahead, you will conquer all. labor omnia vincit - my friend. All the rest is just complete crap. Pay no attention. Wherver you go in the world, be happy, spread love, be brilliant
    Nov 13, 2018 0
  • Commvault Gtalk
    I had similar experience..I told him the no. of interview rounds we encounter..2 telephonic..2-3 technical f2f, 2 design, then behaviour and HR. Its not easy and thats why we demand high pay. He was silent after that..
    Nov 13, 2018 3
    • Commvault Gtalk
      on top of it 250 LC problems😊
      Nov 13, 2018
    • Microsoft / Product TacoBoss
      Hahaha
      Nov 13, 2018
    • Google StringerB
      Telephonic is not a word bruh.
      Nov 15, 2018
  • Airbnb Can’t
    All three of these are just jealous of you.
    Nov 13, 2018 0
  • eBay tg136
    Had similar experience while traveling in Bart
    Nov 13, 2018 0
  • OP: Now you know what passive racism is like. No fun. This is woven into the fabric of the US. If you encounter people that have misconceptions you can either ignore it, return the micro aggression or educate. I find the latter encourages some to critically think and usually ends on a positive note. For the ones who want to stick to their belief there’s nothing you can do about it - they’re followers. Maybe also be mindful of how you treat people who don’t look like you. I’m not Indian but I have an accent and I encounter similar situations.

    Others: Instead of offering backhanded snarky remarks that may solidify OPs personal observations try offering something constructive that may help the OP navigate future observations.
    Nov 14, 2018 1
    • Google AI
      My honest advice to OP would be to just silently take it, and take quiet comfort in the fact that you're better than them. You don't need to put others down to feel good about yourself.

      I'm gay, and I hear passive anti-gay shit similar to what was described in the original post. I just quietly put up with it, content in the fact that I don't need to make others feel bad to feel good about myself.

      Plus I even empathize with them a bit. Maybe there's something really wrong in their lives that's causing them to lash out. If you think about that when they're lashing out, you might even feel bad for them, rather than feel bad about yourself.
      Nov 14, 2018
  • Amazon Gjdyveycc4
    Complain to the ride sharing company and let them handle these ppl
    Nov 13, 2018 7
    • Microsoft ThisOrThat
      They are spewing garbage
      Like it or not falls under first amendment

      According to you Louis Farrakhan should be in jail
      Nov 14, 2018
    • Microsoft ThisOrThat
      Yeah still not against first amendment. Sorry to burst your bubble
      Nov 14, 2018
    • Amazon Gjdyveycc4
      Don’t worry filthy cockroaches don’t burst my bubble. I am using ur fcking first amendment, which u can shove in ur ass and go back to whatever shit you are used to be in or whatever things you are used to suck up.
      Nov 14, 2018
    • Microsoft ThisOrThat
      Aww see kid now if there were hate speech laws you’d be in jail, for “attacking” a minority. Hope you get it now. You presented no argument and lazily posted an article without reading it. To summarize in USA you have no right to tell anyone what they can or cannot say. Being offensive is not breaking the law.

      Sorry to have triggered you 🤣🤣🤣
      Nov 15, 2018
  • Amazon 123raj
    Come back to India.
    Nov 13, 2018 2
    • Microsoft Ranveer
      Raj tu yaha aaja..
      Nov 13, 2018
    • Amazon 123raj
      Nope been there done that Ranveer
      Nov 14, 2018
  • Microsoft / Product TacoBoss
    Ignore them. Every ethnicity in the US had to face some discrimination whet they first arrived off the boat including Jews, Catholics, Irish, etc. Just accept it as part of the immigrants burden and be satisfied that your probably making 2-3 X their family income.
    Nov 13, 2018 1
    • Intel Ynot231
      I wouldn’t take pleasure in out-earning someone, have some empathy bro. I know this goes against the principal tenets of Blinds TC comparison, but the point is to help them move on up as well.
      Nov 14, 2018
  • Amazon More 🍕
    Those are Uber/Lyft rides right? Respectfully ask them to STFU and concentrate on driving. You are a paying customer and don't have to take shit. Then report to Uber/Lyft.
    Nov 14, 2018 0
  • PayPal ppdkk
    Tell them to start doing Leetcode.
    Nov 13, 2018 0
  • Microsoft ThisOrThat
    OP you are like a Bihari doing well in Punjab. No Punjabi is gonna like you
    Nov 14, 2018 3
    • Microsoft Ranveer
      Hey come on now .. punjabis love everyone, for the most part
      Nov 14, 2018
    • Microsoft ThisOrThat
      Man you city Punjabi
      You ain’t no pind Punjabi
      Nov 14, 2018
    • Microsoft Ranveer
      😂 fair enough
      Nov 14, 2018
  • Amazon Klingonk
    Just move to a different country.Not worth putting up with this
    Nov 13, 2018 1
    • Intel Ynot231
      Come on man
      Nov 14, 2018