Apple Cupertino Price of Living

Oct 25, 2018 29 Comments

Currently considering an offer at Apple Cupertino in Operations from like tech company in the North West. Would go from being a homeowner that would have the house paid off in under 10 years (equity) to renting in Santa Clara (throwing money away). Pay bump would be maybe to 140k, plus stock options, etc. Hate the idea of big busy city and annoying millennial tech nerds who don’t know how to put a spare tire on a car when they get a flat, but the over package is appealing. Worth it or nah? Thoughts and insight encouraged and welcomed!

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  • Apple / Eng Schneider
    No time to learn changing a tire as we are too busy increasing our TC. A new grad at Apple has higher base than you, so consider that before trying to make fun of them.
    Oct 25, 2018 8
    • Apple / Eng Schneider
      If you can keep these 3 things out of conversation (religion, politics, sexuality), or at least not be openly bigoted about it, you’d learn more from fellow colleagues than you can in very few other places. Its up to you whether that’s something you are okay with
      Oct 25, 2018
    • OP
      I haven’t a problem at all with those 3. Happy as a clam there. Again, change my mind about the area. Why do folks like it? What makes it desirable? What are some non-biased pros and cons?
      Oct 25, 2018
    • New / Mgmt cby19
      Did he say hunting?
      Oct 25, 2018
    • Apple / Eng bbnospam2
      "Why do folks like it? What makes it desirable?"

      You may never like it 100% as much as your current location. But here are few positives which may make it worth trying for few years.
      - Better weather. I understand this is subjective but most humans consider constant weather b/w 50 - 80 as definitely better!
      - More opportunities to grow as more companies in s/w area. Also since competition is more, we all tend to be aware of this and try to get better.
      - Related to previous - Much much better chance to work on truly world changing/affecting stuff.
      - Later half of previous point on competition applies to kids as well. More competition and more like minded kids will help all kids get better - both academically and social skill wise.
      - Better chance of hitting it big (stock appreciation, high pay in FAANG etc reason) which could allow you to retire early in NorthEast!
      Oct 26, 2018
    • OP
      Thanks for the great response, much appreciated!
      Oct 26, 2018
  • New cFbm27
    I encountered a similar situation. Was offered a spot at the main Cupertino campus and ultimately declined due to cost of living change. It’s a super difficult decision and I wish you the best of luck!
    Oct 25, 2018 6
    • Comcast keysersözæ
      You can move and keep your house. Contact a management company and rent it out.
      Oct 25, 2018
    • Google tc?3commas
      Consider that a starter home in Cupertino is 2M+. A descent one 2.5M
      Oct 25, 2018
    • Uber / Eng
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      Apple income is usually too low for Cupertino, despite Apple being in Cupertino.
      Oct 25, 2018
    • Google 1234-/:;(
      If you buy in the ghettos of san jose and sunnyvale you can be a homeowner. The houses there are only a million
      Oct 25, 2018
    • Sure only a million
      Oct 25, 2018
  • Twitter 0nMyWay
    I am a techie who does not know how to install a spare tire.
    Oct 25, 2018 4
    • Well then OP hates u 😂
      Oct 25, 2018
    • OP
      Then go watch YouTube and learn something new today, drive over some glass tomorrow, and practice your new skills 😎
      Oct 25, 2018
    • Apple / Eng bbnospam2
      Not sure if such generalizations are apt in most cases. I have seen many non tech-nerd who sure knows how to change spare tire but also happens to be an arrogant annoying person. Lived outside Bay Area in small towns where its not that hard to be a big guy on the block/small office/campus/ neighborhood. This easily elevates feeling of self importance and you can be annoying before you even know it.

      Similarly have seen down to earth tech nerds who readily accept their unfamiliarity with changing tires.

      BTW, I have changed my tire...just once and it was long ago though.
      Oct 25, 2018
    • Twitter 0nMyWay
      But my tesla doesn’t have a spare tire in the trunk.. if I get a flat I’m supposed to call tesla service and they will fix it for me for free
      Oct 25, 2018
  • Oracle predickt
    140k is too low a base for Apple/Cupertino or any company. Unless you got lucky, being a homeowner tells me you have at least a decade of experience.
    Oct 25, 2018 2
    • OP
      5 YOE. The misses and I were fortunate to have minimum debt and take care of that and save to put 50% down on a 400k house.
      Oct 25, 2018
    • Oracle predickt
      Wow, good for you guys! I guess you'll be able to _manage_ given your financial history! But 140k is tight. Hope the stock options get you past or near 200k annually. Good luck!
      Oct 25, 2018
  • Apple / Eng 21419
    Offer details?
    Oct 25, 2018 2
    • OP
      Not official but I expect first offer to be 140k ish base, plus signing, moving, company housing for 45 days, stock options...whatever standard is for Apple. Unfortunately, unless they are offering more than standard I’m not sure I see it being worth wile. Insight?
      Oct 25, 2018
    • Western Union patron88
      Not worth it. What's your current TC?
      Oct 25, 2018
  • Google 1234-/:;(
    Cupertino is not a city....
    Oct 25, 2018 0
  • Proofpoint / Other gaaandu
    For a good townhouse in an ok, not great school district think 1.5 mil. For a good townhouse in a bad school district think 1.2 mil.
    Oct 25, 2018 0