CompensationApr 15, 2019
Applejonsmo

Apple EPM to cisco

Yoe 9 - SWE/EPM (sucks.. epms only do milestones, tracking, scheduling, delivery) Current tc 350k (180,20,120-150) Cisco G11 pm RSU 400k/4 Sign on 40k Base 185k Worth it?

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Google XABa65 Apr 15, 2019

Sounds like a pay cut. Why would you take it?

Apple jonsmo OP Apr 15, 2019

Updated

Google AIMLOK Apr 15, 2019

Change areas? I had a group of Apple EPMs telling me they do product manager stuff

Apple auxien@ Apr 15, 2019

Break down your Apple TC so we can compare better

Apple jonsmo OP Apr 15, 2019

Done

Symantec k7dc8ir Apr 15, 2019

why does epm suck? How's pm better?

Google AIMLOK Apr 15, 2019

Which area at Apple?

Apple jonsmo OP Apr 15, 2019

Hmm.. not worth the mention !

Facebook Haggle Apr 15, 2019

Why not just try for google or fb? Feels like a downgrade tbh

Cisco pista Apr 15, 2019

Congrats

Cisco U there Apr 15, 2019

My Friend, I am a PM at Cisco. It really depends on which team you will join. I honestly think coming from Apple to Cisco at G11 is a downgrade What don’t you love about Apple? I heard SW group are treat “so so”

Apple auxien@ Apr 15, 2019

Base is mid ICT4 range which means you have a room to grow in to 5 soon. Also base is just increased by 5k which you will get increased in this fall review anyway. You need to think if its worth taking cultural change, work life balance etc etc for just a bit increase in TC. If you dont like what u do then why not change team internally?

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dfnm74 Apr 16, 2019

That’s downgrade 4 sure

Intel (⌐■_■) Apr 16, 2019

Downgrading to Cisco from Apple and taking a roughly 50k pre-tax pay cut? No. Even if it's for more "interesting" work, which it won't be because it's Cisco.

Google XABa65 Apr 16, 2019

Take it from the Intel guy. But it is true.

Apple auxien@ Apr 16, 2019

Oouch that must have hurt Intel.