Apple Hardware Negotiation

Qualcomm sumdude
Apr 3, 2018 28 Comments

Currently in talks with Apple about compensation for an ICT3 HW position (5 years of experience). Strangely the recruiter insisted that she couldn't go to the compensation team without getting a figure from me. I asked for a range and they said 110K to 170K with 90ish RSU's. Assuming I fall in the middle of the range this seems very low. I was aiming for 160 base and 140 RSU. Am I way off?

Edit: I am an MS

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  • Apple / Eng e=mc^2
    $160K for ICT3 at 5 years of work ex is impossible to get at Apple, unless you have a unique skillset and the team really needs it. Realistic is $130K for 5 years ICT3. RSU can be $110K
    Apr 3, 2018 1
    • Qualcomm sumdude
      OP
      Skillset is somewhat unique but I can't tell yet if they really need me
      Apr 3, 2018
  • Seagate toti4
    Let me put it this way: since you have 5 yrs exp., and are offered an IC3 level, I assume you only have a BS, otherwise it would be IC4 with an MS, or IC5 with a PhD with 5 yrs. For an IC3, 160k base is very unlikely, from an HR point of view. I think there are many IC4s at Apple that make less than 160k for base.
    I guess the worst that can happen is they will reject your offer and you can see what they offer and meet in the middle. Apple folks, any comments?
    Apr 3, 2018 5
    • Qualcomm sumdude
      OP
      Hey thanks for the reply. I have an MS and from what I heard from a current employee MS + 5 years is ICT3
      Apr 3, 2018
    • New WepL64
      From what I heard MS with 5 yrs exp could be IC3, and PhD with 5 yrs exp could be IC4.
      Apr 3, 2018
    • Seagate toti4
      It seems like 3 at Apple is senior engineer at Seagate, 4 would be staff and 5 would be senior staff. We hire fresh PhDs at senior level, maybe around 110k base. But Apple definitely pays more than Seagate. I suppose you can expect ~130k base.
      Apr 3, 2018
    • Seagate toti4
      I’m a senior staff with a base of around 140k, PhD and 10+ years.
      Apr 3, 2018
    • AT&T / Eng
      DDM2K

      AT&T Eng

      PRE
      Optum, Windstream, AT&T, Verizon
      DDM2Kmore
      H1B?
      Apr 3, 2018
  • I joined with MS + 5 years experience at IC3 140/105/35
    My friend with similar experience just got an offer for 140/105/20

    They told me 150 base was the cap for my role and 105 for RSUs
    Apr 5, 2018 2
    • Cisco / Product uptick
      Did you get any cash bonus or stock refresh after joining ?!
      Apr 5, 2018
    • Joined less than a month ago... My recruiter told me cash bonuses are around 10-15% and stock refreshes can range from 60-120k...
      Apr 5, 2018
  • New WepL64
    160 is high for ict3 HW
    Apr 3, 2018 2
    • Qualcomm sumdude
      OP
      And RSU's?
      Apr 3, 2018
    • New WepL64
      100RSU is my est
      Apr 3, 2018
  • Apple / Eng
    JzVf53

    Apple Eng

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    JzVf53more
    I am an ICT3 in Apple hardware engineering and my base is $160k. I had 7 years of experience in semiconductor industry before joining Apple. RSUs were $105k. Location is cupertino.
    Apr 27, 2018 1
    • Intel ejBI88
      Why not ICT4?
      May 11
  • Apple CartMann
    Me too joined at 130 with 5 yrs exp
    Apr 3, 2018 1
    • Qualcomm sumdude
      OP
      How were your RSU's and sign-on?
      Apr 3, 2018
  • Apple Appajappa
    What's the final offer?
    Apr 27, 2018 0
  • Nvidia / Eng Rtyup
    Which location is this ? Bay Area or Austin
    Apr 3, 2018 2
    • Qualcomm sumdude
      OP
      Bay Area
      Apr 3, 2018
    • Nvidia / Eng Rtyup
      Base 130-140, RSU 90-110
      Apr 4, 2018
  • Apple bHUz87
    Did you negotiate for an ICT4 leveling? That’s the only way to go beyond the base pay of 150k base.
    Apr 5, 2018 1
    • Cisco / Product uptick
      I tried and they said ' take it or leave it' ..even when I had competing offer from A
      Apr 5, 2018
  • Apple qmzp
    I joined HW team one year ago after my masters at 135/105/20

    I had three years of experience after my bachelors in India
    Mar 18 0
  • Amazon / Data
    ヾ(⌐■_■)ノ♪

    Amazon Data

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    ヾ(⌐■_■)ノ♪more
    I'm so glad I left HW and when into SW Product Management... LOL
    Jan 19 0
  • Apple njff235540
    I joined HW with BS + 5 years exp at IC3 128/105/20
    Apr 4, 2018 0
  • Snapchat snappygal
    Base 160 is too high... but RSU of 140K is possible.. 4 years ago I got apple offer of 115k base with 110k rsu I had 3-4 years of experience at that time.
    Apr 3, 2018 0

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