How are apple refreshers in iOS MacOS org? Evaluating an offer: 160/105/50 (base/RSU over 4 years/sign on). (Cupertino location) TOE:8 Have competing MSFT offer in Pittsburgh (130/100/40). Both seem similar given the cost of living in Cupertino. But thinking if apple refreshers are worth/live upto the hype.
You'll be living like a king with that offer in Pittsburgh.
What's the team in msft?
Try to get a competing offer from another company in Bay Area otherwise this is standard Apple offer (mine was similar coming from east coast).
Ya.. But there's no time I guess.... 😒 debating the value in Bay area, career wise. Money wise it makes sense to stay in Pittsburgh unless... Apple refreshes are "great"
Career wise for SWE: Bay Area >>> anywhere else. Quality of life, happiness, values, etc is a different story.
ICT 3 or 4? Refresher depends on the level.
I think you r getting hired as ICT3 and for that it makes sense. (On the lower side but not too low). Come here if they take you in as ICT4. That guarantees better refreshers.
So RSU refreshers vary hugely with level and not a % of pay? Also is it hard to get promoted to ic4?
Yes, they are more dependent on your grade than your base pay. And you cant get promoted to ICT4 by just working hard. There are other factors involved. There are many engineers in iOS org who spend 10 years at ICT4. So, Apple has a decent bar to go from ICT3 to ICT4.
That's not much money for the bay area, but can't say much about apple refreshers other than I've heard they're good.
You probably need to be making $80k more at Apple to account for the cost of living difference. Go look up housing costs and tax differences to get a better sense. There are also bonuses to factor in.
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260 at SF/SJ is a lower middle-class no? I thought you need 350-400 there to make a good living.
Hmm. That's my concern. But debating over bay area's future opportunities vs Pittsburgh and apple refreshers. If apple refreshers are great, it might make more sense over msft offer.
How is it 260... It's 130 + 105/4 + year end bonus. This is low TC in Bay area for your years of experience(especially compared to other offer in Pitt). I would suggest going to msft, working a year or two, and then trying again in Bay area if that's where you want to go.