CompensationApr 17, 2018
Junipergja198

Apple SW EPM offer evaluation

Base $175k, RSU $160k-4yrs, sign-on $15, IC4 Master CS, abt 12 year of work experience (as Developer + EPM) Thoughts on offer? Was told $160k RSU is max, is that true or can go higher?

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Apple Pizza007 Apr 17, 2018

Good IC4 offer

Juniper a0j6g2 Apr 17, 2018

Whats your take / experience on RSU max at $160k (vesting over 4 yrs)? Is this limit applicable to all functions or Engineering gets different?

Apple Pizza007 Apr 17, 2018

Not sure about other functions, but 160k is good

Dragoneer Investment Group ¯\_{ツ} _/¯ Apr 17, 2018

You mean $640k in RSUs, right? And because of the 4-year vesting it's $160k /year? Or do you mean $160k total and $40k per year? When my partner got their Apple offer, they just put the total RSU value in it, but it didn't include vesting schedule - was that the same for you?

Juniper a0j6g2 Apr 17, 2018

Nooo I meant $160k vesting over 4yrs.

Cisco Pokjbgffvv Apr 17, 2018

What is EPM? Engineering Program Manager or Product Manager?

Juniper a0j6g2 Apr 17, 2018

Engineering program manager

Adobe Skynet1 Apr 17, 2018

Man Apple such a big company but it pays so low compared to G and FB

Apple Khfe Apr 20, 2018

How much would G or FB pay for similar role?

Apple AppleyMan Apr 21, 2018

Apple’s initial offers are not as aggressive as G and FB, but yearly RSUs and base bumps are great!

Apple jvSQ82 Apr 17, 2018

Recruiter always say this is the max. Truth is it’s just the beginning.

Apple Gg56fh Apr 17, 2018

Good ICT 4 offer. How much is this > than your current comp?

Juniper a0j6g2 Apr 17, 2018

Current comp is shit after 6 yrs sal compression, bad company performance, zero stock. Last yr culture going down the drain exceeded my threshold, so I started to look for a change.

Apple I$5$;4 Apr 18, 2018

How much is it at Google

Juniper a0j6g2 Apr 19, 2018

Update as per offer letter: base came at $165, rsu same, sign-on up to $20k. Told no room for negotiation on any component, even with counter.

Apple jvSQ82 Apr 19, 2018

There is always room if you have counter

Apple I$5$;4 Apr 19, 2018

Thats not always true. Depends on if they have other candidates in line

Apple ICT5 Apr 19, 2018

Sign-on can be up to $75k without extra approvals.

Juniper a0j6g2 Apr 23, 2018

I was coldly and clearly told no room for negotiation.