Apple SW EPM offer evaluation

Juniper gja198
Apr 17, 2018 24 Comments

Base $175k, RSU $160k-4yrs, sign-on $15, IC4
Master CS, abt 12 year of work experience (as Developer + EPM)

Thoughts on offer?
Was told $160k RSU is max, is that true or can go higher?

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TOP 24 Comments
  • Apple jvSQ82
    Recruiter always say this is the max. Truth is it’s just the beginning.
    Apr 17, 2018 0
  • Juniper a0j6g2
    Update as per offer letter: base came at $165, rsu same, sign-on up to $20k.

    Told no room for negotiation on any component, even with counter.
    Apr 19, 2018 6
    • Apple jvSQ82
      There is always room if you have counter
      Apr 19, 2018
    • Apple I$5$;4
      Thats not always true. Depends on if they have other candidates in line
      Apr 19, 2018
    • Apple Gg56fh
      So they reduced your base? OP says 175 base?
      Apr 19, 2018
    • Juniper a0j6g2
      Yup, verbal to actual/letter dropped.
      Apr 22, 2018
    • Apple Gg56fh
      What the hell? Why are you ok with that?
      Apr 22, 2018
    • Juniper a0j6g2
      Am not, but I have to put it aside, since I need out from my current place and look past recruiter hiccup.
      Apr 23, 2018
  • Adobe Skynet1
    Man Apple such a big company but it pays so low compared to G and FB
    Apr 17, 2018 3
    • Apple Khfe
      How much would G or FB pay for similar role?
      Apr 20, 2018
    • Apple / Eng AppleyMan
      Apple’s initial offers are not as aggressive as G and FB, but yearly RSUs and base bumps are great!
      Apr 21, 2018
    • Juniper a0j6g2
      Whats the base hike % like (with and without promotion) ?
      Apr 22, 2018
  • Apple / Other Pizza007
    Good IC4 offer
    Apr 17, 2018 2
    • Juniper a0j6g2
      Whats your take / experience on RSU max at $160k (vesting over 4 yrs)? Is this limit applicable to all functions or Engineering gets different?
      Apr 17, 2018
    • Apple / Other Pizza007
      Not sure about other functions, but 160k is good
      Apr 17, 2018
  • Apple / Eng ICT5
    Sign-on can be up to $75k without extra approvals.
    Apr 19, 2018 0
  • Apple Gg56fh
    Good ICT 4 offer. How much is this > than your current comp?
    Apr 17, 2018 1
    • Juniper a0j6g2
      Current comp is shit after 6 yrs sal compression, bad company performance, zero stock. Last yr culture going down the drain exceeded my threshold, so I started to look for a change.
      Apr 17, 2018
  • Cisco Pokjbgffvv
    What is EPM? Engineering Program Manager or Product Manager?
    Apr 17, 2018 1
    • Juniper a0j6g2
      Engineering program manager
      Apr 17, 2018
  • Dragoneer Investment Group / Product ¯\_{ツ} _/¯
    You mean $640k in RSUs, right? And because of the 4-year vesting it's $160k /year? Or do you mean $160k total and $40k per year? When my partner got their Apple offer, they just put the total RSU value in it, but it didn't include vesting schedule - was that the same for you?
    Apr 17, 2018 1
    • Juniper a0j6g2
      Nooo I meant $160k vesting over 4yrs.
      Apr 17, 2018
  • Juniper a0j6g2
    I was coldly and clearly told no room for negotiation.
    Apr 23, 2018 0
  • Apple I$5$;4
    How much is it at Google
    Apr 18, 2018 0

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