Apple Technical Product Manager - Data Science

Oracle / R&D TLead
Jul 16 41 Comments

Got a mail from recruiter just now saying Apple wants to extend an offer and he would like to get on a call to discuss my compensation expectations. What’s the ideal TC I could ask for?

Please advice.

Current offers:
Amazon L5 SDE2 265k TC - Palo Alto
Microsoft Azure Data & Intelligence- 180k - Redmond
Zillow MLE - 200k - Seattle

Current TC: 160k
YoE: 2.5

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  • Apple wJUx77
    Not sure how amazon tc is broken down, but you could reasonably ask for 175/175/25 from Apple as ict4.
    Jul 16 22
    • Adobe
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      They will never not extend an offer — worst case they will give a slight bump on the lowball and do a “take it or leave it”. As i said, it depends
      Jul 16
    • Oracle / R&D TLead
      OP
      Thank you. I will check with recruiter tomorrow and update you. But I do hope they at least try to match with my Amazon offer
      Jul 16
    • Adobe
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      one thing i dont get is the competing offers. Did you mention that your amzn, Fb offers are swe? Why do you think a TPM pay in Apple should map to swe pay in other companies?
      Jul 16
    • Oracle / R&D TLead
      OP
      Yeah I also mentioned clearly that those are SDE roles and I also mentioned that I would like to learn numbers from Apple first. Because the role at Apple is TPM. So the recruiter said he would check and let me know the numbers tomorrow
      Jul 16
    • Oracle / R&D TLead
      OP
      How much can I expect for TPM position? I know TPM pays less than SDE. Which is why I am asking what could be the ideal number?
      Jul 16
  • Amazon 🍉@
    Dang ML pays well !!
    Jul 16 12
    • Oracle / R&D TLead
      OP
      Yeah I checked levels.fyi and there isn’t much info for PMs. I am currently SDE and other offers are SDEs. Apple’s is PM.
      Jul 16
    • Oracle / R&D TLead
      OP
      True that. I could give 290k. Also do you think the transition from SDE to PM is a good idea?
      Jul 16
    • Amazon 🍉@
      Yes why not man
      Take a jump be brave
      If it does not work out
      You can always jump back.
      Do some management courses
      Jul 16
    • Oracle / R&D TLead
      OP
      Yeah that is true. But then I thought that experience as Pm would not help. I maybe wrong.

      Also I am going to ask like 300k and see what they say.
      Jul 16
  • Amazon / Product DaReelReal
    I'd take Apple if you want to move into PM as opposed to engineering
    Jul 16 1
    • Oracle / R&D TLead
      OP
      What is the TC I could ask Apple? The thing is it is a transition to PM. Would you in general advice moving to PM? I hear PM careers would progress better long term. What would you advice?
      Jul 16
  • Amazon / Product
    Areyousure

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    Congrats on nice offers, what level is the MSFT Azure one
    Jul 16 1
    • Oracle / R&D TLead
      OP
      L60. Microsoft isn’t helping with negotiation. Could you advice about Apple TPM?
      Jul 16
  • Apple / Data blind117
    What’s your education background? Only 2.5 YOE full time experience?
    Sep 5 0