Apple offer eval

Jul 24, 2018 28 Comments

6yoe. 190k base/160krsu/30k joining bonus

Current comp 155k base/62k worth of rsu/no bonus

I want to know what is the annual cash bonus for ICT4 at apple? And is it guaranteeed that i will get the cash bonus (which is different from rsu refresh). Also usually for meets expectations kind of feedback, whats the stock refresh?

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TOP 28 Comments
  • Salesforce / Mgmt gsvvSy64
    You're moving to Apple for less than a 10% bump.. I wouldn't move for anything less than 25%.
    Jul 24, 2018 9
    • OP
      Yes .. i am gettting 62.5k worth rsu every year since this year. I actually cashed this much in rsu (minus taxes ofcourse) this year
      Jul 24, 2018
    • Salesforce / Mgmt cbrjnso
      You should update your OP with that info
      Jul 24, 2018
    • Apple Lynch
      Than you need to factor in expected refreshers too, or not add this 62k refreshes you currently get. Either way, I don’t know where Salesforce got out of school, man
      Jul 24, 2018
    • Apple Mikgfh
      Agree with Lynch, apple’s rsu are the best in Bay Area. Not fair to look at 40k/year rsu.
      Jul 24, 2018
    • Apple / Eng JobsHand
      Apple gives very generous refreshers
      Jul 25, 2018
  • Apple / Eng cho Chang
    Do u have competing offers? If so u should be able to push for higher signing bonus and more RSUs.

    For the refreshers, u can expect around 125k+ refresh yearly, which stacks pretty quickly. Apple is almost similar to Facebook when it comes to RSU refresh.

    Even if this is the final offer, I’d recommend taking it because of the significantly higher base and the good refreshers, plus Apple stock has been doing fairly well.
    Jul 24, 2018 3
    • Apple Animalfarm
      Which org are you at that gets 125k+ refresh and what grade level?
      Jul 24, 2018
    • Apple / Eng cho Chang
      ICT4s get that much in Eddy’s
      Jul 25, 2018
    • Apple / Eng cho Chang
      High band ICT4s I mean
      Jul 25, 2018
  • OP
    Is there a cash bonus component at apple that one gets ? (Other than the RSU refresh?) is it guaranteed every year, and if yes whats the percentage usually ?
    Jul 25, 2018 4
    • Apple TXfr63
      Cash bonus is not part of your offer letter at Apple unlike at other FAANG. So in that way it’s not “guaranteed”. Having said that, I have been getting ~15% for the last few years and also expect something similar this year. I’m NOT average performer though.
      Jul 25, 2018
    • Apple / Eng cho Chang
      @TXfr63 what’s ur rating been out of 9?
      Jul 25, 2018
    • Intel / Product
      freshmonky

      Intel Product

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      Intel, Apple
      freshmonkymore
      I’m interested in this also
      Jul 25, 2018
    • Apple Switcheroo
      I average between 12%-15% cash bonus over the past 3 years, scores between 7/9 and 9/9. IC4 (non-tech) in Phil’s org.
      Jul 29, 2018
  • OP
    My recruiter tells me that there is a definite 10% cash bonus every year. And there are refreshers in stocks every 6 months . Is this correct ?
    Jul 24, 2018 2
    • Apple Babar
      Every year, but they vest every 6 months, over 4year period. So you get 12.5% every 6 months. Refresh can be 0% to ~100% of your base. Some team are more “winner take all”, in this case you better be the high performer.
      Jul 24, 2018
    • OP
      @babar thanks for the info. I also wanted to know about the cash bonus component. Is it true that in most of the cases apple gives atleast 10% cash bonus every year. This is other than the RSU refresh?
      Jul 24, 2018
  • Yahoo cmz700
    Did u negotiate? Rsus for ict4 is less
    50k refreshes are 50 percentile but that depends from org to org, that’s what my recruiter told me
    Jul 24, 2018 1
    • OP
      The recruiter is playing very hard in negotiation. He is making it feel like a take it or leave it scenario.
      Jul 24, 2018
  • Microsoft / Eng teghku
    Job location?
    Jul 29, 2018 0
  • Amazon / Eng
    Ohnoi

    Amazon Eng

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    Google, Amazon, Facebook
    Ohnoimore
    What org?
    Jul 25, 2018 0
  • Apple / Eng
    StJobs

    Apple Eng

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    Intel
    StJobsmore
    Got the same experience and had the same offered RSU and joining bonus, but 180k base, so IMO it's a fair offer.
    Jul 24, 2018 0
  • OP
    The 160k bonus is over 4 years.
    Jul 24, 2018 0