Apple offer suggestion

New / Eng kevinxw
Jun 5, 2018 51 Comments

Got an offer from Apple recently

YOE ~5year
Base 170k
RSU 270k
Sign on 25k

Is this a good offer?

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  • Apple vT5y84
    Lol. Dude, GNS is IS&T. You should read more about them.
    Jun 6, 2018 11
    • Apple vT5y84
      You should find a different org within Apple. It’s virtually impossible to move out of IS&T once you join.
      Jun 6, 2018
    • Apple Gg56fh
      IS&T is known to pay less than SWE or Services, but this offer is better than what both of them offer for ICT4.

      The pay bands were such that that IS&Ts IC4 engineers moved to the product teams as ICT3s. Something has changed.

      And I disagree re: moving from IS&T. I know a few people who have moved out of IS&T to Product teams. Also, Apple interviews are team specific. Finding another team means declining this offer and going through another interview loop. I’ve seen only one other Blind thread with such an offer and that was in the Services org.
      Jun 6, 2018
    • Apple vT5y84
      Are you in IS&T ?
      Jun 6, 2018
    • New / Eng DarkFlame
      It will be hard for me to consider joining another team, cos that means I will have a career path change and discontinue work in network domain. I don’t know if there is any other networking team in Apple that doesn’t fall under IS&T though.
      Jun 6, 2018
    • Apple Gg56fh
      There are plenty. They might even be your team’s customers.
      Jun 6, 2018
    • Apple vT5y84
      Plenty of product teams’ prefer to manage the overall system orchestration Including the network on their own. Because IS&T engineering quality is notoriously shit. Same reason other managers in non-IS&T orgs just ignore internal candidates from IS&T. There may be a few candidates who made the move, but internal transfer policies at Apple doesn’t make it easy.
      Jun 6, 2018
    • New / Eng DarkFlame
      Thanks for the tips. Need to think about this seriously
      Jun 6, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng
      Ho-oh

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      Google
      Ho-ohmore
      What’s wrong with IS&T
      Jun 6, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng
      Snjchja

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      Snjchjamore
      How is GBI?
      Jun 6, 2018
  • Oracle Reddit!
    One of the best Apple offers I have seen for your yoe. Do you have competing offers?
    Jun 5, 2018 6
    • New / Eng DarkFlame
      I do have a couple. But Apple is actually the first one comes up with the package, so I haven’t even negotiated yet
      Jun 5, 2018
    • Oracle Reddit!
      Definitely negotiate. Search for previous posts on blind but this offer is close to FB and G offers for L4 with 5 yoe
      Jun 6, 2018
    • New / Eng DarkFlame
      Good to know. Thanks. I am wrapping up interviews with G/F, so I wonder if G/F can bid higher.
      Jun 6, 2018
    • Oracle Reddit!
      Yes, they do. However fb has a cap for E4. It's 300k RSUs, 160 base and $100k sign on. It cannot go beyond that. Getting $100k sign on is really hard but not impossible.
      Jun 6, 2018
    • New / Eng DarkFlame
      Sounds like the TC is about the same. So I can ask for more sign on probably. Thanks for the info
      Jun 6, 2018
    • Apple / Eng cho Chang
      Ya, signing can go up to at least 40+
      Jun 6, 2018
  • Adobe Asdbccg
    Very good offer. They are also good with refresh.
    Jun 6, 2018 2
    • Apple / Eng cho Chang
      Not as good as fb tho
      Jun 6, 2018
    • Adobe Asdbccg
      Really? This is my first year at Apple and I got higher offer than FB for the same role. My friend at FB said people at Apple got more refresh than she does. We shall see then.
      Jun 6, 2018
  • Fuck, this is very good offer
    Jun 6, 2018 0
  • Microsoft microsof
    Location?
    Jun 6, 2018 7
    • New / Eng DarkFlame
      Bay Area
      Jun 6, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng Bazinga!!!
      SWE?
      Jun 6, 2018
    • New / Eng DarkFlame
      Senior SWE
      Jun 6, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng Bazinga!!!
      My bad, you mentioned it above. Congrats and how were the interviews? Leetcode and design or anything else?
      Jun 6, 2018
    • New / Eng DarkFlame
      Thanks. Leetcode covers most of the coding. Got two interesting hard questions not on leetcode though, a bit math and looks more like google type question. System design covers multiple different large scale networking problems. Makes sense since they are the networking team.
      Jun 6, 2018
    • Microsoft YeYikes
      Op, when you say leetcode, do you mean Apple tagged ones?
      Jun 10, 2018
    • New / Eng IlIll
      I believe Apple doesn’t really have a collection of problems like as g/fb. Their team just ask coding questions they know. But most of them can be found on leetcode.
      Jun 10, 2018
  • Apple exgoog
    Global Business Intelligence. One of the Shitty business analytics tools IS&T ships.
    Jun 7, 2018 0
  • Postmates grT76flk
    Good offer, take it
    Jun 6, 2018 0
  • Box Voldy
    Finally seeing some realistic numbers on blind.!! Cheers
    Jun 6, 2018 0
  • Bloomberg
    Whattodoo

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    Whattodoomore
    Very good offer, but always negotiate for more if you have competing offers
    Jun 6, 2018 0
  • eBay jky5742
    😮 wow . Congrats.
    Jun 6, 2018 0
  • Juniper Not Always
    I think its a great offer. What team?
    Jun 5, 2018 3
    • New / Eng DarkFlame
      GNS team
      Jun 5, 2018
    • Juniper Not Always
      What level ict4 ?
      Jun 5, 2018
    • New / Eng DarkFlame
      Not sure about the internal level. I only know it’s a sr SWE position
      Jun 5, 2018
  • Intel am0509
    Does apple gives big stock grant with ict4 to ict5 promotion? If so, roughly how much?
    Jun 17, 2018 2
    • Apple Gg56fh
      If promoted to ICT5 at review time (October), you might get a 200k or 250k grant vs the 160k that they’d usually give if you were still an ICT4 with 8/9. In SWE (Cupertino). Not sure about Services, HW, SEG or IST orgs or other locations.
      Jun 17, 2018
    • Intel am0509
      Thanks, I should have mentioned that I am looking for SEG org in Austin.
      Jun 17, 2018
  • Oracle zyxw
    It’s a good offer. But I would suggest to negotiate your RSU to 320k if possible .
    Jun 6, 2018 1
    • New / Eng DarkFlame
      Highly unlikely I can make them to. Probably more luck on fb/g with this number.
      Jun 6, 2018
  • Oath Mkmkmkm
    Rsu over 4 years?
    Jun 6, 2018 1
    • New / Eng DarkFlame
      If it’s per year it would be no brainer
      Jun 6, 2018
  • Amazon / Eng
    Ho-oh

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    Ho-ohmore
    Good! What team?
    Jun 5, 2018 1
    • New / Eng DarkFlame
      Their global networking team
      Jun 5, 2018
  • Apple Gg56fh
    What is GBI?
    Jun 7, 2018 0
  • Amazon / Eng
    Snjchja

    Amazon Eng

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    Snjchjamore
    How is GBI?
    Jun 6, 2018 0

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