Apple or Amazon?

eBay omg?!
Apr 30 35 Comments

Recently I got an offer from both apple and amazon, and I’m having hard time deciding which one to choose. Both are in Cupertino, apple opportunity is with iTunes team and amazon opportunity is with a confidential team.

Amazon TC: $233K
Apple TC: $223K

Amazon level: SDE2
Apple level: ICT4

Base salary for both are same.
Amazon is giving $106k in 2 years as joining bonus.
Apple is giving $50k.

Amazon rsu 100 units in 4 years.
Apple worth $135k in 4 years.

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TOP 35 Comments
  • Amazon gudguygabo
    If you want your product released, go for Amazon. If you want work life balance, go for Apple.
    Apr 30 5
    • Lyft TEHm35
      👆this dude has no idea what he is talking about...
      May 1
    • Amazon gudguygabo
      @TEHm35- Yeah right, you may want to look at likes. I m someone who works with Apple teams all the time.
      May 1
    • Lyft TEHm35
      Lol , As if likes are a proxy for correctness- I don’t know what teams you work with , but as an ex Apple guy , Apple is famous for _Not_ being a country club. Also Apple doesn’t like to release shit , unlike Amazon where throw out anything and see what sticks.. I say this as ex Apple .. and ex early Amazon ...
      May 2
    • Amazon gudguygabo
      You are proving my point. Amazon is notorious WLB, although dependent on team. Apple is no cake walk but it does have longer product Dev cycles.
      May 2
    • Lyft TEHm35
      ?? What does longer product dev cycles have to do with not releasing stuff ? “Great artists ship” is very ingrained at Apple.
      May 2
  • New vbnjjaa
    Not sure why people work at Amazon.
    May 1 1
    • Amazon nhohkunugi
      I guess you are looking for a more complex reason other than “can’t get an offer from Google Linkedin Facebook, etc.”
      May 1
  • Amazon nhohkunugi
    Apple no brainer.
    May 1 6
    • Amazon nhohkunugi
      Try get higher TC from Apple, even you don’t get anything, Apple still better than Amazon, in terms of company culture and wlb.
      May 1
    • eBay omg?!
      OP
      I added more details about my TC in the post.
      May 1
    • Amazon nhohkunugi
      Still, Apple, think of year 4+.
      May 1
    • Amazon nhohkunugi
      To be fair, if you are confident you will get continuous top tier rating and get promoted in Amazon, it still could make a better choice.
      May 1
    • eBay omg?!
      OP
      I think it will too much pressure to constantly do something new and perform well.
      Plus, in amazon- I don’t know anything about the project as it is “confidential”.
      May 1
  • Apple RcvW67
    Apple offer is too low. You should get at least 250 or so at minimum. Which team is it?
    Apr 30 7
    • eBay omg?!
      OP
      But they say, amazon doesn’t even have bonuses. It’s just salary adjustments.
      May 1
    • Google / Eng
      GCoin

      Google Eng

      PRE
      Apple
      GCoinmore
      You should go to Apple of course. I was there for years and still miss it. I was just letting you know what to expect for bonus.
      May 1
    • eBay omg?!
      OP
      How are promotions decided in apple? What do you think will be minimum year before I can move to next level?
      May 1
    • Apple buckbuck
      Promotions are really messed up at apple. IC4 to IC5 wil easily take 5 years. Try checking more data points on blind.
      May 1
    • Apple RcvW67
      Apple can be a very bad experience if you don’t have a good manager. Manager gets to decide when you get promoted, how much you get paid and what you work on. Personally, had a terrible experience. Manager decided not to give any refreshers or bonuses ( my performance was good. Salary adjustment was also less than 2%. So take the higher offer you get because you never know of the future.
      May 1
  • LinkedIn / Eng mort
    What's the range for ICT4? I have heard of numbers ranging from 280k to 450k.
    May 1 0
  • Apple RcvW67
    Be aware that at Apple managers aggressively pip out many employees. If this happens to you not only you lose the better money but basically means you get fired. Manager has all the power and no matter how hard you work, you will be under his power.
    May 1 0
  • Amazon Redux
    I want to say Apple... but iTunes sounds pretty lame. Didn’t even know people still use that given how big Spotify is now.

    Still might be safer to try Apple first, you can always join Amazon later. We have thousands of SDE recs opened, which we can’t fill.
    May 1 1
    • eBay omg?!
      OP
      That will include payments for all paid apps and apple stream services.
      May 1
  • Apple
    beautyArya

    Apple

    PRE
    Dropbox
    beautyAryamore
    Yoe? Apple offer is too low for ict4
    Apr 30 3
    • eBay omg?!
      OP
      What should be the base salary range for ict4 ?
      May 1
    • eBay omg?!
      OP
      This is for a test engineer position.
      May 1
    • Apple
      beautyArya

      Apple

      PRE
      Dropbox
      beautyAryamore
      Oh now it makes sense !!
      May 1
  • Amazon Vaporeon
    Make this a poll!
    May 1 1
    • eBay omg?!
      OP
      Alrighty!
      May 1
  • Amazon / Eng
    simmadown

    Amazon Eng

    BIO
    Hiring in nyc for exciting high visibility project. PM me for deets, esp FAANG people.
    simmadownmore
    Both look like good offers. Congrats!

    Although I love working at Amazon and completely disagree with the naysayers, I would say Apple cuz it’s HQ.

    Edit: Actually, seems like Apple is higher level. Another reason to go there. I would try to get the offer up higher.
    May 1 0
  • Oracle Orah
    Apple
    May 1 0