Apple or Microsoft (hardware)?

Intel curious_ee
Feb 15 16 Comments

I have two offers - Microsoft (Xbox team) and Apple (design verification). I’m trying to decide between the two. Both are very different HW roles though - at Apple it’s a traditional DV role at an ASIC team, at Microsoft it’s with a product/client facing team that requires hardware expertise.

WLB, mobility within the company, and working in a non-political environment matter to me just as much as benefits and TC.

4 yoe
Apple (Austin) Base ~120k , 75k stock
Microsoft (Bay) base ~150k , 100k stock

Any insights / suggestions will be of great help. Thanks!

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TOP 16 Comments
  • Google Mmkaay
    Expect shitty wlb at Apple. I would choose Microsoft over Apple in general but also depends on roles, TC, location etc.
    Feb 15 3
    • Intel curious_ee
      OP
      That’s exactly what I’ve been worried about too - shitty wlb at Apple..thanks for your suggestion!
      Feb 15
    • Apple Fdhtgdj
      Not true. Apple in last two years hired lot more employees and wlb much better. I have been at Apple since last 7 years and wlb getting much better.
      Feb 15
    • Google Mmkaay
      Posts on Blind, friends at Apple complain about wlb. Microsoft is known to have very good wlb. Anyhow, OP mentioned wlb first so I assumed he cares so much about it
      Feb 15
  • Apple aqsw
    Apple coz of TC/Cost of living in Austin and also coz its a HW company.

    People complain abt WLB, at the end it’s about you and how you manage it. No one will ask/expect you to work 12hrs everyday
    Feb 15 0
  • Qualcomm iLNw80
    Hi did you finally decide on Microsoft or Apple.. Did MS offer any sign on bonus and how far did you negotiate?
    Feb 24 2
    • Intel curious_ee
      OP
      Yes I was not able to relocate to Austin at this time due to spouse’s job & decided to go with MS. They did offer sign on of 25k..I negotiated based on my other offer and they were very flexible
      Feb 25
    • Qualcomm iLNw80
      Sent a message
      Feb 25
  • Cisco / Data
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    Apple. Because Apple and more so because Austin
    Feb 15 0
  • Intel bittie
    Apple
    Feb 15 0
  • Apple Fdhtgdj
    Apple Austin as it is way cheaper and apple RSU refresh is good
    Feb 15 2
    • Salesforce zeefiddy
      Are refreshes good for hardware too ? Just curious
      Feb 15
    • Apple Fdhtgdj
      Yes.
      Feb 15
  • Apple fJmz82
    How is the job in Microsoft dv team like? Is it a relaxed kind of work ( like intel) ?
    4d 0
  • Apple Share
    Apple. Based on numbers almost jumped on msft. But like others have pointed, if you factor in location, then Apple hands down. Bay is too costly for that TC
    Feb 15 0
  • Cisco bitset
    Lvl 61 or 62 in msft?
    Feb 15 0