Tech IndustryFeb 15, 2019
Intelcurious_ee

Apple or Microsoft (hardware)?

I have two offers - Microsoft (Xbox team) and Apple (design verification). I’m trying to decide between the two. Both are very different HW roles though - at Apple it’s a traditional DV role at an ASIC team, at Microsoft it’s with a product/client facing team that requires hardware expertise. WLB, mobility within the company, and working in a non-political environment matter to me just as much as benefits and TC. 4 yoe Apple (Austin) Base ~120k , 75k stock Microsoft (Bay) base ~150k , 100k stock Any insights / suggestions will be of great help. Thanks!

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Intel bittie Feb 15, 2019

Apple

Cisco ohno! Feb 15, 2019

Apple. Because Apple and more so because Austin

Google Mmkaay Feb 15, 2019

Expect shitty wlb at Apple. I would choose Microsoft over Apple in general but also depends on roles, TC, location etc.

Intel curious_ee OP Feb 15, 2019

That’s exactly what I’ve been worried about too - shitty wlb at Apple..thanks for your suggestion!

Apple Fdhtgdj Feb 15, 2019

Not true. Apple in last two years hired lot more employees and wlb much better. I have been at Apple since last 7 years and wlb getting much better.

Cisco bitset Feb 15, 2019

Lvl 61 or 62 in msft?

Apple aqsw Feb 15, 2019

Apple coz of TC/Cost of living in Austin and also coz its a HW company. People complain abt WLB, at the end it’s about you and how you manage it. No one will ask/expect you to work 12hrs everyday

Apple Fdhtgdj Feb 15, 2019

Apple Austin as it is way cheaper and apple RSU refresh is good

Salesforce zeefiddy Feb 15, 2019

Are refreshes good for hardware too ? Just curious

Apple Fdhtgdj Feb 15, 2019

Yes.

Apple Share Feb 15, 2019

Apple. Based on numbers almost jumped on msft. But like others have pointed, if you factor in location, then Apple hands down. Bay is too costly for that TC

Qualcomm iLNw80 Feb 24, 2019

Hi did you finally decide on Microsoft or Apple.. Did MS offer any sign on bonus and how far did you negotiate?

Intel curious_ee OP Feb 25, 2019

Yes I was not able to relocate to Austin at this time due to spouse’s job & decided to go with MS. They did offer sign on of 25k..I negotiated based on my other offer and they were very flexible

Qualcomm iLNw80 Feb 25, 2019

Sent a message

Apple fJmz82 Sep 11, 2019

How is the job in Microsoft dv team like? Is it a relaxed kind of work ( like intel) ?

Uber UCAe67 Nov 28, 2019

Hi I sent you an DM regarding some questions about the MS Xbox/Hololens team?