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Aug 9, 2017 38 Comments

what's good salary (base, rsu and signon) for ICT3 and ICT4 levels at Apple?

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  • Microsoft / Eng Trotwood
    For ICT4 Cupertino, I was making over $320k total comp which was 30k signon, $120k yearly refreshes, 170k initial stock, 160 base, 10% bonus. I had many years experience. I didn't negotiate much because it was so much higher than my previous comp at Amazon at the time. You can probably squeeze out 20% more from each of those categories easily, or double any one of them except the base/bonus
    Aug 10, 2017 7
    • Facebook / Eng instandidl
      $120k yearly refresher maps to FB's E5.

      What is ICT5 refresher like?
      Aug 10, 2017
    • Apple Jony Eye
      Can someone Help me understand the concept of yearly refresh? Just joined Apple 3 months ago and I only know about RSU + base + bonus.
      Aug 10, 2017
    • Facebook / Eng instandidl
      You know how when you first joined Apple they gave you lump of shares worth $100s of thousands that vests over 4 years?

      They'll give you another lump every single year. It will also vest over 4 years. It's usually much smaller than the initial grant unless you're a rock star.

      Clearly these stock lumps stack when vesting. So during your 2nd year at Apple your total comp will be higher than your first even without a raise. 3rd year higher than the second. Etc. this is called golden handcuffs.
      Aug 10, 2017
    • Apple Jony Eye
      Thank you kind sire.
      Aug 10, 2017
    • Microsoft / Eng Trotwood
      Also sign up for the Apple university courses. They're always full but you get great swag, a day off, and it really helps explain the company's culture. The best instructor they have there IMHO is Randy, so take classes with him if you can.
      Aug 11, 2017
  • Apple xiaomi
    ICT3, $165k base, $50k signing bonus, $175k RSU.
    Aug 10, 2017 14
    • Apple fcknblnd
      Right, but your manager does and it's their feedback that matters. You peer reviews mostly are to help your manager and potential help you argue if you disagree with your managers assessment.

      As an ICT3 you can't be expected to perform at an ICT4 level right? At least logically. So if you were performing "as expected" for an ICT4 than it stand to reason that you must "exceed expectations" as an ICT3.

      Great job on your negotiations. Congrats.
      Aug 10, 2017
    • Apple xiaomi
      Ah that makes sense. Thank you.
      Aug 11, 2017
    • Apple blndusr3
      Is 175k your initial RSU grant for 4 years or it is the amount per year?
      Aug 12, 2017
    • Apple / Eng
      mCiO32

      Apple Eng

      BIO
      Hardware Engineer, PhD
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      Are you software or hardware engineer?
      Aug 31, 2017
    • Snapchat / Eng Biebie
      Which org did you get offer from?
      Aug 22, 2018
  • Apple capnjazz
    What is ICT4?
    Aug 10, 2017 4
    • Twitter coders
      OP
      good question
      Aug 10, 2017
    • Microsoft / Eng Trotwood
      Individual contributor level 4. Where you'll retire at most likely
      Aug 11, 2017
    • Apple xiaomi
      Don’t most people retire at ICT5?
      Aug 12, 2017
    • Microsoft / Eng Trotwood
      ICT4 is such a wide band that it's likely you may never make it to ICT5 unless you're there 15-20 years.
      Aug 12, 2017
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    • Microsoft / Eng
      CDFL65

      Microsoft Eng

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      Aug 9, 2017
    • BlackBerry TronaldDum
      Dafuq?
      Aug 9, 2017
    • VMware rand_
      troller
      Aug 9, 2017
    • Facebook / Eng instandidl
      They're trolling. Ignore.
      Aug 10, 2017
  • Facebook / Eng
    fb2017

    Facebook Eng

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    Google, Oracle
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    worked at Oracle, then Google, now Facebook.
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    looks like ict4 is comparable to t5 at google
    Aug 10, 2017 1
    • Google / Eng ungoogley
      levels.fyi
      Aug 10, 2017
  • Qualcomm alek18h
    Do people know each other's levels at Apple? Recruiter made a big deal about revealing the level and said not to discuss? How would performance reviews happen when people don't know each other's level?
    Aug 24, 2018 1
    • Apple fcai15
      Managers know. But otherwise, not really. But my org is Very transparent so we have something to compare and aspire to
      Aug 20
  • Verizon Digital Media Services gaTF48
    Just accepted got 30k sign on 165k base 105k RSU(4 years) 10 percent bonus. ICT3
    Aug 28 0