Apple vs FB for New Grad (master’s)

Microsoft TTdC16
Aug 29, 2018 35 Comments

Packages:
FB: Base 115k, RSU 160k, Signon 100k, E3
Apple: Base 135k, RSU 180k, Signon 50k, ICT3

The figures are after negotiations and FB wouldn’t increase the base pay for new grads.

Apple is in the iCloud org.

Apple seems to have better TC and the org has good refreshers, but I wonder how would the outlooks of these two companies compare?

But FB seems to have better benefits and perks. E.g. more vacation days, free everything

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TOP 35 Comments
  • Microsoft Graco
    Up to you whether you want to be associated with company stealing personal info or with doing same shit every year.
    Seriously, looks same, up to you what you like better
    Aug 29, 2018 1
    • Amazon SpicyTuna
      Or you can always go to msft and suicide your career altogether.
      Aug 29, 2018
  • Facebook lag|^
    Did you know that if you join Apple, you're not allowed to have any side projects?

    Not talking about doing a startup either: you can't write a blog post about that new JS framework you've been playing with, or publish a tiny currency converter app.
    Aug 29, 2018 7
    • Facebook zuckbucks
      The policy is BS, yes.
      Aug 29, 2018
    • Apple / Eng cho Chang
      No such policy. I think people are just not allowed to work on iOS apps. But there’s nothing wrong with blogging and things.
      Aug 29, 2018
    • IBM / R&D officeX
      Wait a sec. Why are they not allowed to work on some iOS app?
      Aug 29, 2018
    • Facebook zuckbucks
      You're not allowed to compete with Apple in any space, and you're also not allowed to know what Apple is or isn't working on directly or indirectly.

      This means that you can't work on anything related to software.
      Aug 29, 2018
    • IBM / R&D officeX
      How is it called competing if you are adding an app to their platform? I hope you are trolling. If not it's ridiculous.
      Aug 29, 2018
  • Microsoft UveS32
    facebook wayyy more prestigious. anyone can get apple. i feel like you’ll regret apple and pay doesn’t matter as much early in career because if you make right moves you’ll make it up in the future
    Aug 29, 2018 6
    • Microsoft TTdC16
      OP
      From my interview experience, not really. All FB interview problems are leaked on LeetCode so there’re many people who simply memorized those 125 questions and easily got in. Apple’s questions weren’t hard either so I’d say the difficulty was the same.
      Aug 29, 2018
    • Facebook / Eng 5'6"Indian
      I know it's my master when I see a Microsoft account posting about prestigious companies.
      Aug 29, 2018
    • Amazon SpicyTuna
      There are now 300+ fb lc questions. Good luck trying to memorize all of that!
      Aug 29, 2018
    • Microsoft TTdC16
      OP
      It’s not hard for new grad cuz many folks have been practicing LC for over 3 months. I talked to other candidates during my onsite with FB and some of them did all LC questions (800+) three times...
      Aug 29, 2018
    • IBM / R&D officeX
      Not true at all. I got a Google offer but failed Azure interview. So you could fail apple and pass Facebook.
      Aug 29, 2018
  • Apple Tim'sCuck
    Apple compensation will grow faster even without promos
    Aug 29, 2018 0
  • Apple Chakkkaa
    Do you have some prior workex? That’s too good for a ncg
    Aug 29, 2018 1
    • Microsoft TTdC16
      OP
      No, but I had competing offers
      Aug 29, 2018
  • Apple ➖➖➖
    Don’t let your decisions be driven by purely money. Culturally the companies are very different. What work excites you more. You’ll be well off at either company.
    Aug 29, 2018 0
  • Amazon / Eng
    DaaamDoood

    Amazon Eng

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    DaaamDooodmore
    If this is your first job, don’t make the TC or money the only or the primary reason to join one vs the other.

    Look at what teams you may be joining and ask insiders how those teams are.

    Early in your career, you want to maximize your learning and experience - which maximizes your income later on at a much faster growth rate.
    Aug 29, 2018 0
  • Apple textonix
    Holy fuck at that sign up rsu
    Aug 29, 2018 0
  • PayPal / Eng
    OnnC18

    PayPal Eng

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    OnnC18more
    Go to Apple . Higher compensation is always better .
    Aug 29, 2018 0
  • Apple / Eng cho Chang
    Fb for quicker promos.
    Aug 29, 2018 0
  • Apple Cim Took
    Wow! That’s very high end NCG offer from Apple!
    Aug 29, 2018 0
  • Amazon SpicyTuna
    Is this for swe?
    Aug 29, 2018 1
    • Microsoft TTdC16
      OP
      Yes
      Aug 29, 2018
  • New fFVE56
    Which ever gives u more, valuate u more.
    Mar 6 0
  • Facebook hello88
    is the 100k sign-on for 1 year i.e, 100k will be paid in first paycheck or 50k in first paycheck and 50k after an year ?
    Aug 29, 2018 0
  • Splunk zSIL05
    Those are amazing offers for your level. I would chose based on technology you would be working on
    Aug 29, 2018 0
  • Uber
    Aug 29, 2018 0
  • eBay / Eng
    Shaktimann

    eBay Eng

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    Shaktimannmore
    OP I have onsites coming for both Apple and FB. Can you elaborate on your experiences and tell me a bit about how you prepped and the difficulty. I am a new grad as well
    Aug 29, 2018 0
  • Google NewGrad++
    What's cash bonus at Apple?
    Aug 29, 2018 0
  • Uber / Design wayahaha
    100k signon?? That’s a lot but you may not want to look at the $$ only
    Aug 29, 2018 0