Apple vs Microsoft offer

Intel / Eng KuYM20
Sep 9 17 Comments

Current TC: 166k in Oregon
Yoe: 8

Apple:
Level ICT4
Sunnyvale, CA
Joining TC: 185 + 350 (over 4 years) + 40 (first year).

Microsoft:
Level 63
Redmond, WA
Joining TC: 165 + 200 (over 4 years) + 50k (first year)

Its pretty clear for the first year. I am not sure how the offers compare 2nd year onwards based on rsu refreshers and bonuses.
Poll is for TC 2nd year onwards.

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TOP 17 Comments
  • Microsoft gcnsjfhe
    Microsoft stock refresh is 15k. I think L65 first level principal get 35k. L66 is 70k. L66 is usually skip level manager who can manage 60+.

    I don’t know about Apple but I think FB and G give stock similar to L66 at Microsoft for their seniors. All the engineers at Microsoft leetcode in Redmond except 10+ yoe folks who are at principal level or close to it. They are 45+ years old and lost energy to leetcode. But others have moved out. All of the senior friends of mine are staying after failing G for twice but the rest moved already. Seattle area used to be filled with ex Amazonians but nowadays ex Microsoftees.

    Amazonians got unexpected compensation hike so more are staying. Microsoft stock boosted as well but for most it was simply from 15k to 30-40k at best.
    Sep 9 2
    • Google / Eng
      Jpbt27

      Google Eng

      PRE
      Tableau
      Jpbt27more
      70k refresh is approximately the target for L4 at Google, which is one level below Senior.
      Sep 9
    • Microsoft gcnsjfhe
      Darn that is even more embarrassing to Microsoft. Thanks for clarification.
      Sep 9
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    • Microsoft / Eng amnotblind
      with MSFT, you should consider yourself lucky if your stock refresher exceeds 20K
      Sep 9
    • Apple
      ST8Pr1d3

      Apple

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      ST8Pr1d3more
      Damn
      Sep 9
  • Amazon no--name
    Consider Sunnyvale vs Redmond
    Sep 9 1
    • Microsoft Krololo
      vs Redmond you mean?
      Sep 9
  • Microsoft MwzK56
    Apple. No contest!
    Sep 9 0
  • Apple kill9
    Apple refreshers are good
    Sep 9 2
    • Microsoft gcnsjfhe
      Like how good?
      Sep 9
    • Apple kill9
      ~100-150k if u score 7/9
      Sep 9
  • Walmart js6woj
    Yoe?
    Sep 9 1
    • Intel / Eng KuYM20
      OP
      Added to the post
      Sep 9
  • Apple / Eng misled
    Solid offer. Don’t forget to factor in the relocation cash too.
    Sep 9 0
  • Apple vnqoza
    Is this for SWE?
    Sep 9 1
    • Intel / Eng KuYM20
      OP
      Yes
      Sep 9
  • Apple Brahmasmi
    How is this even a question? 166k to more than 300k! Congrats!
    Sep 9 0